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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Fun year for the Pirates. They have everything they need to make a run at the NL Central and easily will finish 5 ahead of the Reds no matter how things shake out. They're better constructed.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    I think the title of this thread should be amended to say, "I'm not sold on the Reds"
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    I'll go down with the ship on this one...still not sold.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    I think the title of this thread should be amended to say, "I'm not sold on the Reds"

    You took the words right out of my mouth. I am sure fans from other teams in the division that are looking down on the Reds....must laugh at this thread.

    Not that it's not a legit thing to think but clearly they look better than the Reds.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    But where would the Pirates be without that lofty 7-1 record against the Reds this season.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    20 straight days in August the Pirates have the Brewers, Reds and Cardinals. That will give them an opportunity to seize the division or fall apart in spectacularly glorious fashion.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Pirates will not finish about .500.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    I still think the Pirates fade.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Pirates will not finish about .500.
    80 wins seems about right.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by oregonred View Post
    But where would the Pirates be without that lofty 7-1 record against the Reds this season.
    Last year we got fat on every division rival but the Cardinals which we rode to the title: Cubs (12-4), Astros (10-5), Brewers (11-3) and the Pirates (10-6). We were 6-12 against the Redbirds. That's 49 of our 91 wins (~ 54%). Clearly we'd have been considerably less successful last year without our great record against our division rivals (.620 last season).
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    What redsmetz said. The model the Pirates are using at this point, beating up mercilessly on the have nots of the NL Central and riding that to the division, is the exact same one that the Reds used last year.

    I think the problem a lot are having seeing that is that the Reds are one of the "have nots" in the NL Central. It is what it is, I would submit.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    I keep waiting for the wheels to come off their starting pitching, particularly Karstens. I thought maybe that might happen today but he pitched very well. We'll see what happens in the dog days of August, though. If they can make it through that, and acquire some depth at the deadline to cover their spate of injuries, maybe I'll give them more credence. As of now I expect them to fall...probably back below .500 by the end of the season, honestly. As people here are saying, fourth place may be it for them. I don't see them having the depth to win the division.

    I live in Pittsburgh and am trying to be gracious to their fans, which is not easy at times. So many years off from contending has made them overly starved/eager and, in many cases, a bit ignorant. At this point every time a routine fly ball is caught, the entire city climaxes. It's both charming and irritating.
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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Pirates are a below average hitting team and a below average pitching team. I can't believe their success has lasted this long. Reds will finish above them in the standings.

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    It seems there may be some nervousness about the Pirates contending, but I still think it isn't their time quite yet. They are improved and some major talent is coming through the pipeline, but right now I don't think their success is sustainable.

    This thread sure got quiet during their epic collapse last year...

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    Re: I'm not sold on the Pirates

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of 1990 View Post
    Fun year for the Pirates. They have everything they need to make a run at the NL Central and easily will finish 5 ahead of the Reds no matter how things shake out. They're better constructed.
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