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    Re: Impending FA, Arbitration and Draft Pick Compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Would love to make a handshake deal with these guys to turn down arbitration- if they were Type Bs.

    We could use the extra sandwich picks, as the draft seems to be the only way to bring talent into the organization these days.
    The old handshake deal gains momentum...

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/0...be-type-b.html
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    Re: Impending FA, Arbitration and Draft Pick Compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    There's no way I'd offer Cordero arbitration because he would need to be offered a minimum of $9.6M. He'd be crazy not to accept. I'm open to offering arbitration to Ramon to keep him around for one more year, though. I would undoubtedly pick up Phillips' option, but I worry about what to do with him after next year.
    This is exactly what I would do.

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    Re: Impending FA, Arbitration and Draft Pick Compensation

    I am for trading Cordero regardless of whether the Reds are dropping out of the race or not. He could be replaced by Massett or Ondrusek, opening up a spot in the pen for someone like Bailey or Volquez or even Willis.

    To me, closers are like running backs in the NFL. There are solid ones everywhere, so they aren't expensive; they don't hold their value that long; and when they lose it, it's like going over a cliff.
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    Re: Impending FA, Arbitration and Draft Pick Compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I am for trading Cordero regardless of whether the Reds are dropping out of the race or not. He could be replaced by Massett or Ondrusek, opening up a spot in the pen for someone like Bailey or Volquez or even Willis.

    To me, closers are like running backs in the NFL. There are solid ones everywhere, so they aren't expensive; they don't hold their value that long; and when they lose it, it's like going over a cliff.
    To me, they are more like kickers. Some are better than others, almost all of them put up solid numbers, and you know the great ones when you see them.
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    Re: Impending FA, Arbitration and Draft Pick Compensation

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    To me, they are more like kickers. Some are better than others, almost all of them put up solid numbers, and you know the great ones when you see them.
    Thing is, kickers stay around forever. Closers for the most part have a few good years and that's it. Rivera and Hoffman and ??? are the only ones that lasted a good long time in recent memory.

    Here's a list of the saves leaders since 2000 in the AL and NL. See any future hall of famers on that list? And note Greg Gagne is representative of what I'm talking about...dude had a few great seasons and just fell off the face of the earth.

    Brian Wilson (SFG) 48 Rafael Soriano (TBR) 45
    Heath Bell (SDP) 42 Brian Fuentes * (LAA) 48
    Jose Valverde (HOU) 44 Francisco Rodriguez (LAA) 62
    Jose Valverde (ARI) 47 Joe Borowski (CLE) 45
    Trevor Hoffman (SDP) 46 Francisco Rodriguez (LAA) 47
    Chad Cordero (WSN) 47 Francisco Rodriguez (LAA)
    Bob Wickman (CLE) 45
    Armando Benitez (FLA)
    Jason Isringhausen (STL) 47 Mariano Rivera (NYY) 53
    Eric Gagne (LAD) 55 Keith Foulke (OAK) 43
    John Smoltz (ATL) 55 Eddie Guardado * (MIN) 45
    Robb Nen (SFG) 45 Mariano Rivera (NYY) 50
    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. -- Terrance Mann (Field of Dreams)


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