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    Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Here are your candidates (feel free to review and suggest corrections). Who are you protecting? The ages are as of 6/27/2011.

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    Name	Pos	Age
    Corky Miller	C	35.27
    Tim Hamulack	LHRP	34.61
    Justin Lehr	RHRP	33.90
    David Cook	OF	29.93
    DontrelleWillis	LHSP	29.45
    Chad Reineke	RHSP	29.22
    David Johnson	RHRP	28.84
    Jerry Gil	RHRP	28.70
    Tom Cochran	LHSP	28.70
    Chris Denove	C	28.55
    Chris Mobley	RHRP	27.86
    Mike Costanzo	3B	27.80
    Mike Griffin	UT	27.74
    James Avery	LHSP	27.04
    Danny Dorn	OF	27.02
    Travis Webb	LHSP	26.90
    Joe Krebs	LHRP	26.78
    Scott Carroll	RHSP	26.75
    Matt Klinker	RHSP	26.72
    Quintin Berry	OF	26.60
    Tim Gustafson	RHSP	26.49
    Brandon Hynick	RHSP	26.31
    Kyle McCulloch	RHSP	26.27
    Derrik Lutz	RHRP	26.18
    Jake Kahaulelio	IF	26.05
    Denis Phipps	OF	25.93
    Eric Campbell	3B	25.89
    James Skelton	C	25.66
    Drew Bowman	LHRP	25.63
    James Adkins	LHRP	25.58
    Scott Gaffney	RHRP	25.29
    JordanHotchkiss	RHSP	25.23
    Ruben Medina	RHRP	24.91
    Frank Pfister	3B	24.84
    Clay Shunick	RHSP	24.79
    Andrew Means	OF	24.79
    Carlos Mendez	3B/1B	24.78
    Aguido Gonzalez	LHRP	24.77
    Lance Janke	RHSP	24.72
    Justin Freeman	RHRP	24.68
    Justin Walker	RHSP	24.65
    Jose Castro	IF	24.64
    Dave Sappelt	OF	24.48
    Curtis Partch	RHSP	24.37
    Cody Puckett	UT	24.23
    Mace Thurman	LHRP	24.23
    WelintonRamirez	OF	24.21
    Matt Fairel	LHSP	23.97
    Jose Gualdron	IF	23.94
    KevinCoddington	C	23.93
    Tzu-Kai Chiu	LHRP	23.78
    Alex Buchholz	IF	23.74
    PedroVillarreal	RHSP	23.55
    Josh Ravin	RHSP	23.43
    Devin Mesoraco	C	23.02
    Tyree Hayes	RHRP	22.88
    Stalin Gerson	RHSP	22.83
    EzequielInfante	LHRP	22.82
    Blaine Howell	LHRP	22.73
    Danny Vicioso	C	22.66
    Doug Salinas	RHRP	22.56
    Donald Lutz	1B/OF	22.38
    Miguel Rojas	SS	22.34
    Neftali Soto	1B	22.32
    Jordan Wideman	C	22.29
    Mike Henry	RHRP	21.82
    Kyle Lotzkar	RHSP	21.67
    Cris Rodriguez	IF	21.65
    PorfirioMrtinez	RHRP	21.57
    Luca Panerati	LHRP	21.57
    Henry Rodriguez	2B	21.38
    Didi Gregorius	SS	21.35
    Jefry Sierra	2B	21.20
    RadhamesQuezada	RHSP	20.97
    Jesus Adames	RHRP	20.42
    Ismael Guillon	LHSP	19.37

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Isn't Mes already on the 40 man?
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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Wow. Slim pickings. If that's the list I only protect Mez and Sappelt as of today.

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Mes, Sappelt, Soto, Puckett. Maybe Lotzkar if he stays healthy and effective in the second half. Also need to add Maloney to the current 40 man.

    Spots freed up:

    Hernandez, Renteria, Cordero, Smith, Negron, Valaika. Fisher also if necessary. Burton non-tendered if he comes back, but he may push somebody else off before the end of the year.
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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Mesoraco and Sappelt are absolutes.

    Scott Carroll is a guy I would be surprised to see left unprotected. He has a good arm.

    Neftali Soto and Josh Ravin are question marks, though I think the Reds would protect Ravin before Soto. Ravin is hitting upper 90's and there is a rumor that he hit triple digits in his last game. There is a chance someone would take him with that arm even if he doesn't reach AA. You can hide that kind of arm in the bullpen and hope it develops. When he is on top of his game, I think he compares favorably with anyone in our system (from a pitching standpoint).

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Mesoraco and Sappelt are absolutes.

    Scott Carroll is a guy I would be surprised to see left unprotected. He has a good arm.

    Neftali Soto and Josh Ravin are question marks, though I think the Reds would protect Ravin before Soto. Ravin is hitting upper 90's and there is a rumor that he hit triple digits in his last game. There is a chance someone would take him with that arm even if he doesn't reach AA. You can hide that kind of arm in the bullpen and hope it develops. When he is on top of his game, I think he compares favorably with anyone in our system (from a pitching standpoint).
    Also with Soto playing 1b now on a fulltime basis he is double blocked in the system by two pretty good players.

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by bellhead View Post
    Also with Soto playing 1b now on a fulltime basis he is double blocked in the system by two pretty good players.
    What about Guillon?

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Mes, sapp, soto, Rodriguez, didi, lotzkar.

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    I really don't think guys like Soto, Lotzkar, Pucket, etc. need to be protected because of the extremely low likelihood they get drafted since they are so raw...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Puck, probably not, but Soto, yes. Two scouts concurred that they see him as a young Derrek Lee. And Lotzkar at one time had the best pure stuff in the organization. They put Jordan Smith on when he missed most of the year and Lotzkar has way better stuff. He'll get added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    Puck, probably not, but Soto, yes. Two scouts concurred that they see him as a young Derrek Lee. And Lotzkar at one time had the best pure stuff in the organization. They put Jordan Smith on when he missed most of the year and Lotzkar has way better stuff. He'll get added.
    Why would a team keep Soto on their 25-man roster for the entire season? He's performing mediocrely at AA. Lotzkar, while he has great stuff, hasn't pitched above low A and can't stay healthy. They won't need to protect him either...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by *BaseClogger* View Post
    Why would a team keep Soto on their 25-man roster for the entire season? He's performing mediocrely at AA. Lotzkar, while he has great stuff, hasn't pitched above low A and can't stay healthy. They won't need to protect him either...
    Teams will do things to keep guys if they really want a guy. Example, Donnie Veal. The Pirates kept him the entire year and he threw less than 20 innings for them.

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Oh, I know they will, I just can't imagine anybody *really* wants Soto when he is so unflexible as to what he could offer off of a MLB bench...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Post-2011 Rule Five Draft

    Crazier things have happened.

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    Couldn't Soto be taken to play for a AAA affiliate?


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