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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Tony is such a freakin' liar.

    First he says nothing was intentional, it was just inside. Then he said they were trying to throw a message. Then he said no it was just inside. Then after the reporter mentioned it looked intention, he starts going off on the Brewers for throwing inside.

    He was changing his story so many times in that interview I can't keep it straight. Which is it Tony... were you just throwing inside, were you sending a message or were you upset they were throwing in on Pujols? LOL
    Okay, I don't get that at all from his comments. It sounds to me like his idea of sending a message is to simply throw inside and brush the guy back. But at the waist or lower. He seems to take offense to the inside brushback pitch that is chest high and above. And I'd have to agree with him. You can control the inside part of the plate without going up and in. I also agree that neither pitcher intended on hitting either batter. But it was intentional to go inside to both hitters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I also agree that neither pitcher intended on hitting either batter. But it was intentional to go inside to both hitters.

    Did you see Braun get hit? It was the most intentional hitting of a batter I have seen in ages. First he threw a pitch right at Braun, that Braun avoided somehow. Then the very next pitch, he nailed him in the middle of the back. Absolutely, positively on purpose. No doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Anyone have the audio of the Brewers telecast after a pitch was thrown at Braun? I heard it was great and can't find it.
    I don't have a link to the audio, but i paused it on TV last night, and transcribed it myself. This is what i said earlier in this thread:

    This was the exact quote by the Brewers TV guy. He NAILED it.

    "The Cardinals fashion themselves as the keepers of baseball etiquette....That was uncalled for. It's just bush league, that's what it is. Bush league. ....Once again, they're nothing if not predictable, complain about everything, but that's Cardinal's baseball."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    Did you see Braun get hit? It was the most intentional hitting of a batter I have seen in ages. First he threw a pitch right at Braun, that Braun avoided somehow. Then the very next pitch, he nailed him in the middle of the back. Absolutely, positively on purpose. No doubt.
    I only saw 1 pitch from the highlights. If he did it twice, why wasn't the pitcher ejected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I only saw 1 pitch from the highlights. If he did it twice, why wasn't the pitcher ejected?
    Good question. He should have been ejected. Warnings were issued by the ump at that point, but I guess since they hadn't been issued before, the ump decided not to eject. Larussa did take him out of the game right after that.... But there is NO doubt that there were two pitches thrown at Braun, I saw it live, and i saw it on replay several times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneupper View Post
    And now it's the hotel room service!!! You honestly cannot make this stuff up.

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...#ixzz1U09Yjf68

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    Wow this thread got blown up over night. I don't have the time to go over everyone's posts.

    I would just like to add that this is the perfect example of why I would much rather hang out here than in some of the Cardinals boards. This is a title of a thread that just had me laughing.

    "Albert is having a down year on purpose"

    This is the level of discussion you get on some of those boards. I would much rather take the good nature ribbing I get here than subjugate myself to that idiocy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    And now it's the hotel room service!!! You honestly cannot make this stuff up.

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...#ixzz1U09Yjf68

    Dave Duncan this morning, regarding Jaime Garcia's road woes:

    "He seems to get on the road and if he orders room service and they're 30 minutes late, it gets him all upset," Duncan told the radio show this morning.
    Maybe being around TLR all the time puts everybody on edge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reds/Flyers Fan View Post
    And now it's the hotel room service!!! You honestly cannot make this stuff up.

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...#ixzz1U09Yjf68

    Dave Duncan this morning, regarding Jaime Garcia's road woes:

    "He seems to get on the road and if he orders room service and they're 30 minutes late, it gets him all upset," Duncan told the radio show this morning.

    One thing about the Cardinals, it's never, ever, ever, EVER their fault.

    I think Duncan's point was that Garcia lets too many things that are out of his control get to him. If you watch him pitch, if someone gets on base due to an error or things he can't control, he kind of loses it. You all have wondered about Garcia and his unearned run issue in the past. The whole room service thing he brought up was just one example of many. It happens with a lot of young pitchers.
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    Re: Cardinals discussion thread

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    I missed it, but apparently Ryan Ludwick was talking about the Cardinals on the Pirates pregame show...said something along the lines of he didn't realize just how hated the Cardinals are throughout baseball until he left the organization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    I think Duncan's point was that Garcia lets too many things that are out of his control get to him. If you watch him pitch, if someone gets on base due to an error or things he can't control, he kind of loses it. You all have wondered about Garcia and his unearned run issue in the past. The whole room service thing he brought up was just one example of many. It happens with a lot of young pitchers.
    Pretty sure that is what he meant as well...but it is just way to much fun to run with the quote
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey012 View Post
    Pretty sure that is what he meant as well...but it is just way to much fun to run with the quote
    Exactly.

    We get it Mike, and nothing personal, but we're not buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Exactly.

    We get it Mike, and nothing personal, but we're not buying it.
    Well I think Duncan is kind of at his wits end with Garcia because his home/road splits are night and day. There is really no explanation why he suddenly loses control on the road. I think a lot of it does have to do with psychology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    Well I think Duncan is kind of at his wits end with Garcia because his home/road splits are night and day. There is really no explanation why he suddenly loses control on the road. I think a lot of it does have to do with psychology.
    Maybe theyre dimming the lights at home for him so its not so bright
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