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    Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    In his defense, he made it clear to everyone concerned that he was more comfortable hitting lower in the lineup.

    Of course, CF = leadoff hitter in Baker's simplistic view.

    But his stark refusal to attempt more than one bunt per month is completely on him. That and his pathetic inability/unwillingness to protect the plate down 0-2 and 1-2.

    Of course, he's always down 0-2 or 1-2.

    I'm not really interested in witnessing Stubbs fan countless more times.

    Even with all that speed and power, it's going to take him approximately 700 PA to score 100 runs. Not worth a LTC, IMO.

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    yea lets trade him and keep gomes few more years

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Quote Originally Posted by R_Webb18 View Post
    yea lets trade him and keep gomes few more years
    I take you at your word.

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Yes

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Stubbs is hitting .237 against right handed pitching and .330 against left handed pitching. Why is this such a mystery? Its called platooning, its called playing the percentages. This is not rocket science.

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    Stubbs is hitting .237 against right handed pitching and .330 against left handed pitching. Why is this such a mystery? Its called platooning, its called playing the percentages. This is not rocket science.
    Exactly.

    Only to Baker is the concept rocket science.

    One and one-half. More. Years.

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    yea lets just get rid of the next reggie sanders

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Quote Originally Posted by malcontent View Post
    Of course, CF = leadoff hitter in Baker's simplistic view.
    or fastest person on the team = leadoff hitter

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Quote Originally Posted by webbbj View Post
    yea lets just get rid of the next reggie sanders
    Reggie never stuck out like Stubbs


    The most reggie every struck out was 137 times in 1998


    Stubbs is at 114 NOW and on pace for 220 this season

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    I'd trade Stubbs, Alonso, and Grandal to LA for Kemp. That's 3 former #1 picks for a stud. They get quality youth, and we get our 4-hole hitter.
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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Some of you folks need a big refresher on Bakermetrics. I will employ my buddy Texasdave as an adjunct lecturer. Classes shall commence forthwith.
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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Speaking of career splits...Gomes falls off the charts vs. RHP.

    I know the point was hammered here over the winter...that he should only start against LHP. But when you look at the numbers you really have to wonder if Baker ever does (other than particular match-ups). From his own statements it's clear he likes to divine those on a day-to-day basis. Platooning is somehow beneath him.

    I don't care what the apologists say, a manager does make a difference, and it's partly why the Reds are a .500 team right now.
    Last edited by malcontent; 07-04-2011 at 04:00 PM.

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    He's at it again.

    Down 8-1 to the Cardinals in the 7th, runners on second and third, two out. 1-2 count.

    Strike three looking.

    Completely inexcusable.

    I can only hope Marty is going off.

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    Stubbs is hitting .237 against right handed pitching and .330 against left handed pitching. Why is this such a mystery? Its called platooning, its called playing the percentages. This is not rocket science.
    Or you let them learn how it hit, like the Yankees did with O'Neil

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    Re: Can we end the Stubbs LTC talk already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krawhitham View Post
    Or you let them learn how it hit, like the Yankees did with O'Neil
    There is a reason some scouts said that Stubbs would never hit.

    I think we're seeing it now.


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