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    Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Starting Lineups:

    Cardinals

    1. Descalso, SS
    2. Jay, CF
    3. Pujols, 1B
    4. Holliday, LF
    5. Berkman, RF
    6. Freese, 3B
    7. Molina, C
    8. Carpenter, P
    9. Schumaker, 2B

    Reds

    AB/OBP/OPS vs. Carpenter

    1. Stubbs, CF 21/.333/.652
    2. Renteria, SS 18/.222/.472
    3. Votto, 1B 29/.655/1.155
    4. Phillips, 2B 44/.250/.446
    5. Bruce, RF 26/.231/.445
    6. Rolen, 3B 31/.484/.855
    7. Heisey, LF 3/.000/.000
    8. Hanigan, C 11/.182/.432
    9. Arroyo, P

    Bench:
    Miguel Cairo R 17 /.412 /.762
    Ramon Hernandez R 38 /.368 /.643
    Jonny Gomes R 13/.000 /.071
    Fred Lewis L 10/ .200/ .300


    -copied and pasted from Reds Fanatic, ORG.

    edit: Descalso NOT the 2nd 3B.
    edit2- added OPS v. Carpenter.
    Last edited by LeDoux; 07-16-2011 at 06:47 PM.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Heisey freed. Cozart benched. Must be a career Renteria vs. Carpenter thing?

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    I know that Tony LaRussa thinks he invented baseball...but two third basemen and no short stop in the starting line-up? That's unorthodox.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Stubbs is my leadoff hitter. Stubbs is my leadoff hitter.

    /Dusty

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Quote Originally Posted by mmt1552 View Post
    I know that Tony LaRussa thinks he invented baseball...but two third basemen and no short stop in the starting line-up? That's unorthodox.
    cheers and fixed.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Quote Originally Posted by LeDoux View Post
    Heisey freed. Cozart benched. Must be a career Renteria vs. Carpenter thing?
    Nope- Renteria's OPS is .472 vs. Carpenter.

    BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Miguel Cairo R 17 4 1 1 0 2 2 5 .235 .350 .412 .762
    Edgar Renteria R 18 3 1 0 0 2 2 3 .167 .250 .222 .472
    Scott Rolen R 31 9 1 1 1 4 1 4 .290 .371 .484 .855
    Ramon Hernandez R 38 9 2 0 1 4 2 6 .237 .275 .368 .643
    Brandon Phillips R 44 7 4 0 0 7 2 6 .159 .196 .250 .446
    Jonny Gomes R 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 .000 .071 .000 .071
    Fred Lewis L 10 1 1 0 0 1 0 3 .100 .100 .200 .300
    Joey Votto L 29 12 1 0 2 3 4 7 .414 .500 .655 1.155
    Ryan Hanigan R 11 2 0 0 0 0 1 4 .182 .250 .182 .432
    Jay Bruce L 26 4 0 1 0 1 2 4 .154 .214 .231 .445
    Drew Stubbs R 21 6 1 0 0 0 1 5 .286 .318 .333 .652
    Chris Heisey R 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    You can never have too much Veteran Creaminess in your lineup. Anyone who thinks Dusty doesn't have a thing for veteran players is blind.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    You can never have too much Veteran Creaminess in your lineup. Anyone who thinks Dusty doesn't have a thing for veteran players is blind.
    Drew Stubbs consistently in the starting lineup says otherwise.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Quote Originally Posted by knoonan991 View Post
    Drew Stubbs consistently in the starting lineup says otherwise.
    I am not sure there is a creamy alternative to Drew Stubbs. Its Stubbs or Heisey in CF. Both have negative cream ratings.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    I like this lineup for the Cardinals. Colby could use a day off in the worst way

    I always hate watching Arroyo pitch. I feel like the Cardinals do well against him but having to watch that leg kick for 5 innings bugs the crap out of me, I don't know why but I really don't like it. Kind of like Ryan Dempster and his glove twist.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Let's see...make all the plays...check......3 for 5 with RBI to tie the game....check.....fantastic base running...check....brings a little fire to the lineup...check.....sitting on the bench....WTF?

    There is just no consistency with Bake and his logic. I would love to hear why Heisey is hitting 8th and Cozart is on the bench. Why not hit Heisey behind Bruce or even bat him second? But at LEAST he is IN the lineup.......

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Renteria should have been DL'ed when he was hit by the pitch last week. The Reds missed a great opportunity to bring up another AAA bat for a tryout.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Quote Originally Posted by knoonan991 View Post
    Drew Stubbs consistently in the starting lineup says otherwise.
    Of course what is the alternative? If you only have youth that can play centerfield, then, obviously, a young person is gonna play centerfield. I would say something closer to the truth is they let Dusty try Taveras and Patterson and finally Jocketty said enough is enough.
    Last edited by texasdave; 07-16-2011 at 06:27 PM.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    It's a back-to-back Saturday. And who better to thump on than Chris Carpenter.

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    Re: Reds host Cards 7-16-11

    Quote Originally Posted by bleedsred View Post
    Let's see...make all the plays...check......3 for 5 with RBI to tie the game....check.....fantastic base running...check....brings a little fire to the lineup...check.....sitting on the bench....WTF?

    There is just no consistency with Bake and his logic. I would love to hear why Heisey is hitting 8th and Cozart is on the bench. Why not hit Heisey behind Bruce or even bat him second? But at LEAST he is IN the lineup.......
    I think there is a lot of consistency just not what anybody wants.


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