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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Maxvill is on the list at number 23.

    Lots a players on that list that I had nearly forgotten about. Almost makes me wish I hadn't of clicked on the link.

    The Reds had a 3rd baseman a few years back that should have been on that list. I think his name was Larson? I'm trying forget his name so I can't recall for sure.
    You're thinking of Brandon Larson, the ultimate can-hit-in-the-minors-but-not-the-majors guy.

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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by BCubb2003 View Post
    You're thinking of Brandon Larson, the ultimate can-hit-in-the-minors-but-not-the-majors guy.
    That's him. Thanks!
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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Darrell Chaney, Woody Woodward, Bill Plummer.
    I always thought Plummer and Chaney were decent backups. But when you are little kid you think some players were much better than they really were. I can't really remember much about Woodward other than he split time at SS with Concepcion in 1971.
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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    The Braves of the 80's had a bunch who could be on that list too. Rafael Ramirez,Rufino Linares,Brad Komminsk are just a few to mention.
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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

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    It's just one of my pet peeves--I think Merkle was unfairly, uh, goated (hey, we are talking about the Cubs.) Check out this thread: 100th Merkle Anniversary
    Thanks for the insight. That has to be tough to be forever linked to that play.

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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Some other former Reds that could make that list:
    Junior Kennedy
    Paul Householder
    Rick Auerbach
    John Vukovich
    Most any catcher in the years of 1982 to 1989. A few of the names are Bilardello,Van Gorder,Gulden etc....
    Hector Cruz (Jose's brother) comes to mind, though he only played parts of two seasons with the Reds. Career OPS of .654, fielding percentage of .975, 7 career SBs in 15 attempts, yet he managed to stick around for 1806 plate appearances.
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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    I love this one:

    In 1979, after years of having jeers rained down upon him by his home Giants fans, [Johnnie] LeMaster emerged for a game with the word "boo" stitched onto his jersey in place of his name.
    I can't believe I never heard about that before.
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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    I am sure many of us are surprised to not see Eric Milton on the list. As well as Wily Mo Pena.
    Alex Treveno and Jim Kerns are a couple of my personals.

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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    I can't believe Todd Benzinger was on the list. He was not all that good of a player but he was certainly better than a whole lot of players already mentioned in this thread.
    Last edited by George Anderson; 07-18-2011 at 04:36 PM.
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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I sent the list to Westofyou, who's on vacation, and he caught this omission too.

    I think Alex Trevino should be there. .979 career fielding percentage at catcher for a guy who couldn't hit and couldn't throw out runners by his 3rd or 4th year in the majors (yet he played for 13 seasons. The guy had one error for almost every 4 assists as a catcher (89 errors /398 assists).

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...revial01.shtml

    By comparison, Johnny Bench in 17 seasons 97 errors / 850 assists.
    I wrote some stuff on Hal a few years back:

    Lanier was a legacy player, son of Cardinal hurler Max Lanier. Hal was a sought after high school player who surprised most of baseball when he signed with the Giants. While hitting over .300 in the minor leagues in 1964 Lanier got the call, a swift fielding 2nd sacker Lanier hit a respectable .274 in 90 games in San Francisco, however his 5 walks in 401 plate appearances should have been a warning flag the size of Texas. The next season Hal played with an assortment of players at shortstop, but a mid season trade brought Dick Schofield over. Schofield had been the transition shortstop from Grote to Alley in Pittsburgh, when Alley was ready to take over full time the inept bat of Schofield was sent to San Francisco to fill out there shortstop problem.

    Together in San Francisco Schofield and Lanier teamed up for 997 trips to the plate that season, unfortunately for the Giants they made an out 758 times, thatís a robust 76% of the time they came to bat. Lanier honed that skill into an art form and no better was that displayed than in the 1967-1968 seasons. By then Lanier had been moved to shortstop, solving the Giantís lack of defense at the keystone position and also bettering the bat at second by default. Lanier came to the dish 1075 times in the 67-68 seasons and made an astonishing 871 outs, thatís an out 76% of the time he batted. Of the 212 hits that he had 16% were extra bases, none home runs.

    Lanierís 1968 season produced the worst secondary average (The formula is (TB-H+BB+SB)/AB) in the history of the modern game, with his 1969 and 1967 season taking slots 3 and 4.

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    OBA                      YEAR     OBA      PA      OUTS       G
    Hal Lanier               1968     .222      518      425      151
    Hal Lanier               1967     .239      557      446      151
    Leo Cardenas             1963     .270      601      459      158
    Don Kessinger            1967     .275      628      473      145
    Tito Fuentes             1966     .276      564      420      133
    Jose Pagan               1963     .277      519      389      148
    Roy McMillan             1965     .280      574      425      157
    Dick Schofield           1965     .282      548      408      132
    Don Kessinger            1968     .283      707      526      160
    Sonny Jackson            1967     .285      566      430      129
    
    SLG                      YEAR     SLG      PA      OUTS       G
    Hal Lanier               1968     .239      518      425      151
    Hal Lanier               1967     .255      557      446      151
    Dick Schofield           1965     .256      548      408      132
    Don Kessinger            1967     .272      628      473      145
    Dal Maxvill              1967     .279      530      386      152
    Sonny Jackson            1967     .283      566      430      129
    Don Kessinger            1968     .287      707      526      160
    Roy McMillan             1965     .292      574      425      157
    Dal Maxvill              1968     .298      516      357      151
    Roberto Pena             1968     .300      546      396      138

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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Maxvill is on the list at number 23.

    Lots a players on that list that I had nearly forgotten about. Almost makes me wish I hadn't of clicked on the link.

    The Reds had a 3rd baseman a few years back that should have been on that list. I think his name was Larson? I'm trying forget his name so I can't recall for sure.

    Some other former Reds that could make that list:
    Junior Kennedy
    Paul Householder
    Rick Auerbach
    John Vukovich
    Most any catcher in the years of 1982 to 1989. A few of the names are Bilardello,Van Gorder,Gulden etc....
    I hope you aren't including Bo Diaz on that list.
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    Re: Deadspin's "The Worst 100" baseball players of all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    I hope you aren't including Bo Diaz on that list.
    No. Diaz was the best of the lot during that period. He wasn't great but about an average MLB catcher. Which was better than anyone else they had.
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