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    I think the key is where Okie Jr, and Oklahoma go. If they stay true to the Big minus they add Houston and continue along. If they head East the ACC and Big East better pray they get drugged along when the superconfernces flex its collective muscle. If they head west the big minus will die but probably quickly end expansion... for now.
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    So what if the SEC takes a pass on A&M?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    So what if the SEC takes a pass on A&M?
    A&M wouldn't be leaving if they didn't have a place to go, if not the SEC then someone else will have them.

    I actually don't think the big12-3 will fall apart, Oklahoma seems to have tied themselves to Texas' bumper and the rest of the schools would be looking at Conference USA.
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    A&M wouldn't be leaving if they didn't have a place to go, if not the SEC then someone else will have them.
    Well, they wouldn't be making the move if they were going to be left playing in the Sun Belt. But that may be where they end up. If the SEC takes A&M, they need another team. So who is it going to be? I don't think Florida's going to be crazy about adding FSU. Maybe there will be another Big 12 defection. But outside of the Oklahoma schools, Missouri is the only one that is relatively attractive. I guess I'm of the opinion that A&M isn't that much of a plum.

    I actually don't think the big12-3 will fall apart, Oklahoma seems to have tied themselves to Texas' bumper and the rest of the schools would be looking at Conference USA.
    It may not fall apart but if it adds schools like SMU and TCU, it may be on a par with the Big East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Well, they wouldn't be making the move if they were going to be left playing in the Sun Belt. But that may be where they end up. If the SEC takes A&M, they need another team. So who is it going to be? I don't think Florida's going to be crazy about adding FSU. Maybe there will be another Big 12 defection. But outside of the Oklahoma schools, Missouri is the only one that is relatively attractive. I guess I'm of the opinion that A&M isn't that much of a plum.
    I don't think Florida would care, but I doubt it'll be fsu/Georgia Tech/Clemson/Louisville, the SEC is already on tv in every city in those states, A&M may be on par with Mississippi State right now but they do put the conference in the state of Texas.

    My guess is it'll be West Virginia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    I don't think Florida would care, but I doubt it'll be fsu/Georgia Tech/Clemson/Louisville, the SEC is already on tv in every city in those states, A&M may be on par with Mississippi State right now but they do put the conference in the state of Texas.

    My guess is it'll be West Virginia.
    As much as I would love to see WVU in the SEC, I don't see it happening for the same reasons you listed the schools above. I live in Parkersburg WV and I get UK/SEC games through WSAZ. Because our news stations are in Huntington which borders Kentucky through Ashland, there is a UK following on those stations.

    I see WVU staying in the Big East unless the Big Ten decides to bring Pitt, UConn, Syracuse, and Rutgers into the fold as rumored. If that happens, WVU would jump ship, likely to the ACC. If Virginia Tech happens to join the SEC, that would sweeten the pot for WVU to join. They could hold their own in basketball against Duke/UNC and would be one of the top football teams in the ACC, something that would not happen in the SEC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    I don't think Florida would care, but I doubt it'll be fsu/Georgia Tech/Clemson/Louisville, the SEC is already on tv in every city in those states, A&M may be on par with Mississippi State right now but they do put the conference in the state of Texas.

    My guess is it'll be West Virginia.
    I've mentioned it before, but the thing that makes the dynamic a little different than in previous conference expansions: their TV deals with CBS and ESPN are already national deals. SEC games are already on TV where FSU and Clemson and Louisville etc. are, but they're also already on TV in Virginia and Texas and West Virginia and North Carolina. Moving into a new market helps -- obviously, the ratings in Texas will go up after adding A&M -- but the current baseline viewership in Texas is not zero. Ultimately, if TV is what drives the deal, the real numbers that matter are projections of national viewership increases. It might come from adding teams in different states, or it might come by adding teams perceived as TV draws regardless of where they are. I'm glad it's not my job to do the figuring!
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    If you're going to do it, go big:

    Northern Division
    Missouri
    Kentucky
    Arkansas
    West Virginia
    Vandy
    Tennessee

    Eastern Division
    Virginia
    South Carolina
    North Carolina
    Georgia
    Florida
    Duke

    Western Division
    Auburn
    Alabama
    Mississippi
    Miss State
    LSU
    Texas A&M

    Football
    Play everyone in your division, then match up seeds with other conferences and play four elimination games, Sweet 16 style with byes for top teams, play-in games among bottom teams, and best records playing at home. Imagine the drama. Imagine the millions. (Imagine the headaches for ADs and travellers.) Boy, wouldn't it be fun?

    For example, Alabama gets out of its division with the number one spot in the West. It then has to play

    Basketball
    A 17-game schedule playing each team once, then a monster conference tourname, held over two weeks, first with elimination games for the lower division teams, then with games played on the home courts of the team with the higher seed, then, the last weekend, at a neutral site. A furious Febrary making way for March Madness. Made-for-TV drama.

    Baseball
    Play home and away two game series with every team.
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    That would be pretty cool, Scrap. I might substitute Va Tech for Virginia.

    I think it will be A&M and Fl State, Va Tech, or Missouri.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    A&M wouldn't be leaving if they didn't have a place to go, if not the SEC then someone else will have them.

    I actually don't think the big12-3 will fall apart, Oklahoma seems to have tied themselves to Texas' bumper and the rest of the schools would be looking at Conference USA.
    Several of the schools have a home waiting for them in the Big East. Mizzou, Kansas and K-State would all be welcomed into the Big East.
    What if this is as good as it gets?

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    I don't have a link but there is some news floating around that Oklahoma is giving a look to the Pac 12. Their president said they would take "2 to 3 weeks" to decide whether they were going to stay with the Big 12 or move west. Of course Ok State goes with them. The question is does Texas? One of the rumors about the salvation of the Big 12 last year was that the Pac 12 wouldn't let Texas start its own network, what happens with that now? I don't understand the move west, I would think teams be trying to move east (earlier games, more exposure).

    I still think there are a couple surprises still to arise.
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    A&M has applied to join the SEC and they have been accepted. However one Big 12 is balking.

    http://news.yahoo.com/sec-invites-te...135153630.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    A&M has applied to join the SEC and they have been accepted. However one Big 12 is balking.

    http://news.yahoo.com/sec-invites-te...135153630.html
    Sounds like the Baptists of Baylor aren't too happy. Can't say I blame them as they will probably be C-USA bound once the Big 12 dissolves.
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    Funny that Baylor had no problem saying 'screw you guys' to TCU, SMU, Rice and Houston when the big12 first formed.
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