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Admins feel free to delete the WVU post if you want to try and keep it specifically for things WVU related and confirmed news about WVU. I am pasting it here.
Money talks and besides ND and Texas, FSU brings the most on a national stage of anyone else there is left. The SEC shops quality product where the ACC just goes on tv markets (regardless of whether anyone cares). The last ACC move was for basketball and FSU knows exactly where their bread is buttered (read not basketball) and they are about to become the big fish in a glass of water. The SEC knows what it would mean to get them as 16. Another rumor was that they were one to push HARD for WVU inclusion in the last expansion but the Tobacco Road Mafia called their bluff and FSU did setup a committee to look at conference affiliation.
And before someone else brings up the buyout raise. FSU was one of the reasons it was only raised to 20 mil from 13 or whatever it was before. For a major athletic department that is a few phone calls to the big cat donors.
A little bit of history Florida actually pushed hard for FSU in the 90s before Bowden and FSU decided to take the "easier path". Florida would accept FSU's inclusion but they won't politic for them like they did then, I believe.
No one else makes sense for 16 (that wouldn't have to bring little brother with them). Va Tech sold their freedom to get into ACC, I doubt if even if they wanted they could get out from under the legislatures thumb (note all bets are off if B1G wants UVa Long Shot I know), Do NC State or Clemson see value of leaving the blue bloods and the Big East schools do ANY of them really provide any value football wise that might entice SEC?
The cap on BcS teams is far from certain so you add more confusion to your member schools staying at 15 without relative security from someone that they would be 16.
I don't see an invite coming for the other thing you said, "easier path" fsu likely still favors that plan since it helped them get two titles in the 90's.
On the scout site an FSU fan posted when they found out about Pitt and Syracuse the following....
Its almost as if the ACC broke into the big east house and took the trash and left the safe.
Am I forgetting someone? Who else makes sense for the SEC to poach than Florida State University that would make it 16? Va Tech sold its independence to get into the ACC no chance they get out of that deal with the devil (Legislature), Texas or Oklahoma would be required to bring little brother with them, Notre Dame... yea I think they'd join Big East football before SEC (the academic side would almost certainly join them with Big 10 or ACC, plus there is that little problem called NBC).
I still don't think 16 team conferences are going to happen, the ACC could have Uconn and Rutgers right now but hasn't pulled the trigger, the SEC also seems to be taking their time with 14 rather then a mad rush, the Pac12 and Big10+2 also don't seem to be in a hurry to do anything.
If an ACC team can be raided, I'd go with Clemson, but I guess I'm partial to Orange.
Missouri's BOC has given permission to explore new opportunities for Mizzou. I think they will be team #14 in the SEC very shortly.
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