Turn Off Ads?
Page 21 of 45 FirstFirst ... 1117181920212223242531 ... LastLast
Results 301 to 315 of 671

Thread: College Football Realignment

  1. #301
    Administrator Boss-Hog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    6,074
    South Florida is in Tampa, not Miami.

    Just my opinion, but the only conference that seems to be putting "markets" ahead of everything else is the ACC. I get the impression the other conferences that have expanded are looking beyond just market size and for good reason, IMO.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #302
    The rest is drama. marcshoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    In the woods, with a shovel
    Posts
    5,157

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    The SEC possibly IF they expand to 16. They don't culturally fit the ACC and academically horrid to be considered for the Big 10.

    The reason though is I don't see any other possibility for the SEC:

    Teams that likely will be blocked by other members:
    Florida State (ACC)
    Georgia Tech (ACC)
    Clemson (ACC)
    Louisville (Big East)

    Team that makes sense but sold its soul (as Slyder put it) and even then has to deal with a 20 million buyout:

    Virginia Tech (ACC)

    Which leaves WVU, Cincinnati, and South Florida being the teams making the most geographical sense. UC borders on Kentucky, among other issues. South Florida would be interesting as it would bring Miami, but would UF vote for it?

    That leaves WVU who would likely be no 15. The SEC could stay at 15 and go with a 3 pod system as Slyder mentioned, but if they go 16, another wildcard I would throw out is NC State. It would put the SEC into North Carolina and tap into the Raleigh-Durham/Charlotte market. NC State is the redheaded stepchild of the Carolina schools, but it would likely take convincing to get them to leave. It would give them a solid rivalry with South Carolina as well.

    Of course, you have to hope they would bite and the exit fee comes up again. Once past WVU, its a guessing game.
    And that may be the biggest impediment to WVU moving to the SEC--number 16 is likely to be particularly weak. Virginia Tech would have made so much sense, if only....

    Personally, I wish the NCAA were strong enough to insist on geographically based conferences, but that's a pipe dream.

  4. #303
    Waitin til next year bucksfan2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    10,178

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    The SEC possibly IF they expand to 16. They don't culturally fit the ACC and academically horrid to be considered for the Big 10.

    The reason though is I don't see any other possibility for the SEC:

    Teams that likely will be blocked by other members:
    Florida State (ACC)
    Georgia Tech (ACC)
    Clemson (ACC)
    Louisville (Big East)

    Team that makes sense but sold its soul (as Slyder put it) and even then has to deal with a 20 million buyout:

    Virginia Tech (ACC)

    Which leaves WVU, Cincinnati, and South Florida being the teams making the most geographical sense. UC borders on Kentucky, among other issues. South Florida would be interesting as it would bring Miami, but would UF vote for it?

    That leaves WVU who would likely be no 15. The SEC could stay at 15 and go with a 3 pod system as Slyder mentioned, but if they go 16, another wildcard I would throw out is NC State. It would put the SEC into North Carolina and tap into the Raleigh-Durham/Charlotte market. NC State is the redheaded stepchild of the Carolina schools, but it would likely take convincing to get them to leave. It would give them a solid rivalry with South Carolina as well.

    Of course, you have to hope they would bite and the exit fee comes up again. Once past WVU, its a guessing game.
    FSU and Clemson both get into the SEC well before WVU. Georgia Tech opted out of the SEC and they aren't going back. I don't buy Louisville as a legit SEC contender. I don't see any way possible that WVU gets a SEC invite. I really don't think they bring anything to the table.

    Does UL have any chance of heading to the Big 12? The Big 12 currently stands at 11 (assuming Missouri doesn't depart). I really like the TCU addition, it makes sense and they are adding a nice football program. I think BYU would be the best addition to make 12 out there. But Louisville may not be a bad choice if BYU doesn't get an offer or they need another team to make 12.

  5. #304
    C-A-T-S CATS! CATS! CATS! WVRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Almost Heaven
    Posts
    8,445

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    FSU and Clemson both get into the SEC well before WVU. Georgia Tech opted out of the SEC and they aren't going back. I don't buy Louisville as a legit SEC contender. I don't see any way possible that WVU gets a SEC invite. I really don't think they bring anything to the table.
    Obviously they would get in before WVU if an offer would be made, but thats the key. FSU and Clemson won't receive an invite because the SEC already has a team in those markets. Krono already explained earlier in the thread why Florida and other SEC schools would likely block a FSU invite after Florida lobbied to get them into the SEC, only to have FSU reject it and stay in the ACC.

    That and I don't see any ACC school swallowing the cash to leave the conference unless they are so disenfranchised.
    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I've read books about sparkling vampires who walk around in the daylight that were written better than a John Fay article.

  6. #305
    Five Tool Fool jojo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    18,937

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Obviously they would get in before WVU if an offer would be made, but thats the key. FSU and Clemson won't receive an invite because the SEC already has a team in those markets. Krono already explained earlier in the thread why Florida and other SEC schools would likely block a FSU invite after Florida lobbied to get them into the SEC, only to have FSU reject it and stay in the ACC.

    That and I don't see any ACC school swallowing the cash to leave the conference unless they are so disenfranchised.
    I would love to have Clemson join the SEC because I think Clemson fits tradition-wise. Clearly the ACC has circled their wagons which probably makes the likelihood of any ACC changing conferences a moot point. But if that weren't the case, Clemson still wouldn't likely get an invite, not because of market but rather, because of recruiting wars. Clemson is just a little too successful in Florida and U of F would not likely allow them to build an even stronger argument by letting Clemson into the SEC (and I think despite the ACC grabbing some teams, they are not as strong of a football conference as the SEC).
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

  7. #306
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Louisville, KY
    Posts
    1,591

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    FSU and Clemson both get into the SEC well before WVU. Georgia Tech opted out of the SEC and they aren't going back. I don't buy Louisville as a legit SEC contender. I don't see any way possible that WVU gets a SEC invite. I really don't think they bring anything to the table.

    Does UL have any chance of heading to the Big 12? The Big 12 currently stands at 11 (assuming Missouri doesn't depart). I really like the TCU addition, it makes sense and they are adding a nice football program. I think BYU would be the best addition to make 12 out there. But Louisville may not be a bad choice if BYU doesn't get an offer or they need another team to make 12.
    With Missouri the big 12 stands at ten teams and may stay there. All indications are, if Missouri leaves Louisville will be invited and the big 12 will seriously consider two more teams. For some reason, BYU is off the table.

  8. #307
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    3,165

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    With Missouri the big 12 stands at ten teams and may stay there. All indications are, if Missouri leaves Louisville will be invited and the big 12 will seriously consider two more teams. For some reason, BYU is off the table.
    Won't play on Sundays and I've heard that they want to see more stability before they join another conference.
    Quote Originally Posted by moewan View Post
    Barmaid to patron "Sir you are slurring, I am going to have to cut you off"

    Patron to barmaid "I'm not slurring, I'm speaking in cursive"


  9. #308
    Titanic Struggles Caveat Emperor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    The 513
    Posts
    12,642

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by joshnky View Post
    With Missouri the big 12 stands at ten teams and may stay there. All indications are, if Missouri leaves Louisville will be invited and the big 12 will seriously consider two more teams. For some reason, BYU is off the table.
    Every team you add slices the revenue pie a little smaller.
    Championships Matter.
    23 Years and Counting...

  10. #309
    C-A-T-S CATS! CATS! CATS! WVRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Almost Heaven
    Posts
    8,445

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    South Florida is in Tampa, not Miami.

    Just my opinion, but the only conference that seems to be putting "markets" ahead of everything else is the ACC. I get the impression the other conferences that have expanded are looking beyond just market size and for good reason, IMO.
    I don't think the ACC is looking at markets moreso than they are looking at basketball. Sure, Syracuse and Pitt (NY and Pittsburgh) make sense from a market standpoint, but they are two of the most successful basketball schools in a conference that is basketball first.

    Football drives the bus, but apparently the ACC didn't get that memo.
    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I've read books about sparkling vampires who walk around in the daylight that were written better than a John Fay article.

  11. #310
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    3,165

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    I don't think the ACC is looking at markets moreso than they are looking at basketball. Sure, Syracuse and Pitt (NY and Pittsburgh) make sense from a market standpoint, but they are two of the most successful basketball schools in a conference that is basketball first.

    Football drives the bus, but apparently the ACC didn't get that memo.
    Explain BC then. Yes I agree they are looking for basketball and will be the new Big East when the Big East is taken off of the life support but their 1b is markets or else WVU would fit like a glove there too.
    Quote Originally Posted by moewan View Post
    Barmaid to patron "Sir you are slurring, I am going to have to cut you off"

    Patron to barmaid "I'm not slurring, I'm speaking in cursive"


  12. #311
    Titanic Struggles Caveat Emperor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    The 513
    Posts
    12,642

    Re: College Football Realignment

    The dream that refuses to die:

    http://twitter.com/#!/ScottDKushner/...88840321335296
    Sources around #Tulane say talks with Big XII are still alive. Wave's chances are contingent on abt 5 factors going its way, but it's real.
    http://twitter.com/#!/GSwaim/status/122688215210672129
    "@JeremyinSP: @GSwaim so it could change again." This expansion committee was talking #Tulane this week...with a straight face!!
    Wave pride, baby.
    Championships Matter.
    23 Years and Counting...

  13. #312
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    3,165

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Big East
    SEC
    Big 12

    All are supposedly meeting tomorrow, some rumors that SEC is ready to move on 14 and a lot of local talk about something big happening with WVU.

    What does it all mean? I have no flippin clue but I hope something is decided before bridge day or else there might be a lot of Mountaineer fans jumping off the bridge without the safety stuff. LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by moewan View Post
    Barmaid to patron "Sir you are slurring, I am going to have to cut you off"

    Patron to barmaid "I'm not slurring, I'm speaking in cursive"


  14. #313
    C-A-T-S CATS! CATS! CATS! WVRed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2000
    Location
    Almost Heaven
    Posts
    8,445

    Re: College Football Realignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyder View Post
    Big East
    SEC
    Big 12

    All are supposedly meeting tomorrow, some rumors that SEC is ready to move on 14 and a lot of local talk about something big happening with WVU.

    What does it all mean? I have no flippin clue but I hope something is decided before bridge day or else there might be a lot of Mountaineer fans jumping off the bridge without the safety stuff. LOL.
    A friend of mine was at the WVU game on Saturday and the rumor throughout the stadium was that there were people dressed up wearing SEC pins. Take it for what its worth.

    TCU is expected to join the Big 12 today, and I think the SEC is waiting for Missouri to get off the pot and do something.
    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    I've read books about sparkling vampires who walk around in the daylight that were written better than a John Fay article.

  15. #314
    Rally Onion! Chip R's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cincinnati, OH
    Posts
    34,423

    Re: College Football Realignment

    The Air Force Academy may get a football only invite from the Big East.

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...joins-big-east
    The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

  16. #315
    Member OnBaseMachine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    34,844

    Re: College Football Realignment

    I would much rather see WVU end up in the Big 12.
    I miss Adam Dunn.


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25