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    12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Stubbs, Phillips, Cozart out. Renteria, Bruce, Rolen, Gomes in.

    Heisey 8,
    Renteria 6,
    Votto 3,
    Rolen 5,
    Bruce 9,
    Hernandez 2,
    Gomes 7,
    Cairo 4,
    Cueto 1.

    v.
    Jeff Karstens, RHP
    8-4, 2.34 ERA
    Karstens' 83-pitch shutout against the Astros in his last outing marked the least amount of pitches thrown in a shutout since Aaron Cook threw 79 in a start for the Rockies in 2008.
    Johnny Cueto, RHP
    5-3, 2.01 ERA
    Cueto has gone four outings without a victory, though all have been quality starts. The right-hander has logged at least seven innings in eight of his last nine trips to the hill and sports a 2.01 ERA.
    It should be a pitcher's duel.
    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index...1&mode=preview

    Hurdle will hand the ball to a guy he has been able to trust all season long. Jeff Karstens (8-4, 2.34 ERA) takes the mound coming off a shutout of his own in his last start, and having won five of his last six starts. The right-hander has tossed eight consecutive quality starts, allowing only eight earned runs over 57 1/3 innings.
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    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...-phillips-out/
    Dusty Baker indicated Tuesday that he had planned to give Phillips a rest. Phillips is 0-for-15 since his walk-off homer against St. Louis last Friday.

    Rolen returns after three consecutive days off. He was off Sunday per usual after a night game, then sat Monday and Tuesday as his left shoulder continues to bother him.
    the Reds have had success against Karstens
    Karstens Vs. Cincinnati
    31.2 innings pitched
    0-4 6.82 ERA


    Last 5 years vs. CIN hitters
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    CIN Hitters	AVG	AB	HR	RBI
    Jay Bruce	.273	11	1	2
    Miguel Cairo	.333	3	0	0
    Zack Cozart	-	-	-	-
    Jonny Gomes	.571	7	0	1
    Ryan Hanigan	.000	1	0	0
    Chris Heisey	.500	4	1	2
    Ramon Hernandez	.250	8	0	4
    Fred Lewis	.500	2	0	1
    Brandon Phillips.400	15	1	5
    Edgar Renteria	.000	1	0	0
    Scott Rolen	.333	3	0	0
    Drew Stubbs	.600	5	1	1
    Joey Votto	.714	7	0	2
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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    The lack of offense since the break has been so annoying. Let's hope they can support Cueto some today.
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Pirates lineup v. Cueto

    Presley 7
    d'Arnaud 6
    Walker 4
    McCutchen 8
    Overbay 3
    Jones 9
    Wood 5
    McKenry 2
    Karstens 1

    Also, thanks to Todd Gack for this link:

    http://twitter.com/#!/Kristy_Robinson/
    Hurdle said Joel hanrahan is not available today (pitched three straight). Jose Veras considered if game dictates.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    At this point its useless to complain about the lineup. You could probably put anyone in any order and they still wouldn't hit. Dusty should use an old Billy Martin trick and just pull names out of a hat for the order. It might not work but it wouldn't hurt either.
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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Gametime temp will be upper 80s, possibly 90. Currently 68% humidity. Dewpoint 73 degrees.

    Yuck.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    At this point its useless to complain about the lineup. You could probably put anyone in any order and they still wouldn't hit. Dusty should use an old Billy Martin trick and just pull names out of a hat for the order. It might not work but it wouldn't hurt either.
    Oh you can... Heisey has an OBP of .305....but is slugging at over .420. Renteria does not need to play hardly ever again.

    Cozart
    Cairo
    Votto
    Hernandez or Heisey
    Bruce/Hernandez (IF Hesiey bats 4th)
    Rolen
    Gomes

    That's right... Bruce..Rolen and Gomes go 6-7-8.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Quote Originally Posted by CySeymour View Post
    The lack of offense since the break has been so annoying. Let's hope they can support Cueto some today.
    I can see them busting out in CHI but the pitching then going back to giving up 6-7 runs. I really do.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    At this point its useless to complain about the lineup. You could probably put anyone in any order and they still wouldn't hit. Dusty should use an old Billy Martin trick and just pull names out of a hat for the order. It might not work but it wouldn't hurt either.
    Didn't Lou do that back in 1990 in a game out in L.A. when the Reds were going bad?
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    My apologies....i thought they went to CHI. I think i need a day off.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Quote Originally Posted by CySeymour View Post
    Didn't Lou do that back in 1990 in a game out in L.A. when the Reds were going bad?
    He may have. I don't remember. I'm pretty sure Lou was with the Yankees when Martin did that back in the late 70's early 80's. So he may have tried it too.
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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Oh you can... Heisey has an OBP of .305....but is slugging at over .420. Renteria does not need to play hardly ever again.

    Cozart
    Cairo
    Votto
    Hernandez or Heisey
    Bruce/Hernandez (IF Hesiey bats 4th)
    Rolen
    Gomes

    That's right... Bruce..Rolen and Gomes go 6-7-8.
    I agree with you about Cozart. Unless he is hurt or sick he should play everyday. You have got to know if he is the answer at SS or not.
    I don't have a problem with Heisey batting first. According to Fay, Stubbs is banged up after fouling a pitch off his leg. I just as soon have him as anyone else at this point. Why not bat Cairo 2nd in this order? Certainly a better option than Renteria. But of course we all know its a rule that the SS bats 2nd.
    Of course with this said, they will go out and score 20 runs today.
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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    My apologies....i thought they went to CHI. I think i need a day off.
    Talk to Dusty...he'll have Gomes post for you
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Quote Originally Posted by CySeymour View Post
    Talk to Dusty...he'll have Gomes post for you
    Gomes will then promptly whif on all of his posts.
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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    He may have. I don't remember. I'm pretty sure Lou was with the Yankees when Martin did that back in the late 70's early 80's. So he may have tried it too.
    I think he batted Rick Rhoden (Who could hit) about 7th in one game as the DH.

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    Re: 12:35 pm Wednesday July 20 Reds @ Pirates- a day game!

    And we're underway.


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