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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Benson said the following about Chad/TO last year:

    "Chad and T.O. weren't in today, so we were able to just play football," he said. "There was no 'gotta get him the ball.'"

    And by "him," Benson was not referring to himself.

    "I'm too real to be on a reality show," he said.

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...han-drama.html
    It sure would have been nice to hear such leadership from our QB

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Say what you want about Ced but he's more of a leader than Carson ever was

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    I disagree. I'll give you two examples

    Carson never addressed the Chad/TO fiasco last year. He let those guys take the team down whereas he should have called them out in person.

    Carson never addressed the coaching issues. Ced clearly stated that Bratkowski was a problem and that he'd not return if Brat came back. Carson said nothing. He just pouted and quit.
    In the end its the coaches and organization that let those guys act how they act.
    They draft and sign those guys and let them do what they want to do with every little consequences.

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by CTA513 View Post
    In the end its the coaches and organization that let those guys act how they act.
    They draft and sign those guys and let them do what they want to do with every little consequences.
    A lot of it falls on leadership. Both in the front office as well as on the field. If Carson would have handled Chad/TO/TJ better I don't think there ever would have been the circus that evolved. I would loved to see how a guy like Boomer would have handled those characters.

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    A lot of it falls on leadership. Both in the front office as well as on the field. If Carson would have handled Chad/TO/TJ better I don't think there ever would have been the circus that evolved. I would loved to see how a guy like Boomer would have handled those characters.
    If the coaches and organization can't/won't control these guys then how can you expect 1 player to?
    How many off the field problems and arrests do we need before the organization starts taking more blame?
    How many organizations would let a player get away with attacking a coach during the halftime of a playoff game?

    Game #1 of the 2011 season and the new leader gets up and starts yelling at Dalton after a bad running play.
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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    A lot of it falls on leadership. Both in the front office as well as on the field. If Carson would have handled Chad/TO/TJ better I don't think there ever would have been the circus that evolved. I would loved to see how a guy like Boomer would have handled those characters.
    It sounds like backwards logic, but I think Carson was a bad leader in those situations because they didn't play well.

    There are a lot of situations where it makes sense for an otherwise confrontational guy to tone it down and simply let TO and Chad be TO and Chad.
    There are a lot of situations where it makes sense for an otherwise quiet leader to tell Chad and TO to shut up and run the right route.

    Leadership isn't about showing you're in charge, it's about getting the best possible performance from the team around you. I don't think anyone can argue that Carson's leadership brought out the best in Chad and TO last year.

    I think in certain previous years, it made sense to let Chad and TJ be vocal and simply air it out. But when the team was struggling, or when the divas needed to simply do their own job, and someone needed them to just do their job, I don't think Carson ever adapted to what the team needed.
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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    There's only so much the stuffed shirts can do about this kind of stuff. After awhile you need guys in the locker room to handle it

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Stuffed on three 3rd and 1's against a bad defense.

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Let's see if we can make a comeback in the 2nd half.

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Some of Denvers best players aren't playing and the Bengals are still struggling.
    They are so banged up at WR that Tebow is playing WR at times.

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    This is just a reminder of where our Bengals are...they're still not very good.

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    They are going to have to show the ability to throw the ball downfield at some point.

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Bengals go 3 and out to start the 2nd half and the Broncos backups quickly score 7

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Thats the Bengals we've all come to expect.

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    Re: How bad are the Bengals going to be next year?

    Bengals scored at TD and now have a short field after getting a strip sack fumble recovery.


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