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    Furcal to Cardinals close..

    Buster Olney- Dodgers on the verge of trading Rafael Furcal to the Cardinals. Not done, but close. #trades

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    This is getting ridiculous if it happens.

    We are on the verge of becoming the Orioles or the Blue Jays. Stuck in a division where we cant compete because teams like the Cards and the Cubs chuck money all over the place.

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    I think the ridiculous part is how much the Reds refuse to do any chucking of $, but I agree, it's no fun for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrherd05 View Post
    This is getting ridiculous if it happens.

    We are on the verge of becoming the Orioles or the Blue Jays. Stuck in a division where we cant compete because teams like the Cards and the Cubs chuck money all over the place.
    To some degree we already are stuck in that place. The Cubs and Cardinals generate a lot more revenue than the Reds. The Cubs have never spent it well so it hasn't been a Boston/Yankee level problem for the Reds but the Cardinals have historically been reasonably smart, so they have lot more eras of sustained good teams. The Reds are getting better at generating revenue, but they are still a long way behind the Cardinals.

    The Marge Schott and especially the Carl Lindner years of ownership really didn't help a bit along these lines.

    Disclaimer: I know winning helps generate revenue and that investing in being good has helped give the Cardinals the long term revenue advantage they have had over the Reds. I'm just saying that, however we got here in 2011, the Reds are in tough spot with regards to relative revenue within their division.

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    Furcal is terrible

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    Well, in that case, the Reds "fans" of Cincinnati and the surrounding areas are to blame. St. Louis and Chicago support their clubs at the gate, Cincinnati got all pissy after the strike in the 90's and took their ball and went home.

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    Another reason why their needs to be a salary cap/salary floor in MLB. Every other pro sports league already has it.
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    Yeah Furcal isn't that good anymore. This move makes the Cardinals marginally better, bullpen help might put them over the top.

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    Good news is that the cardinals are acquiring rentals and giving up prospects to do so. Aside from the two SP prospects their system is already weak. They still aren't better than the NLs best either.
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    Re: Furcal to Cardinals close..

    Quote Originally Posted by DocRed View Post
    Furcal is terrible
    And another injury waiting to happen.Given his track record.

    ROLL TIDE ROLL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newman4 View Post
    Good news is that the cardinals are acquiring rentals and giving up prospects to do so. Aside from the two SP prospects their system is already weak. They still aren't better than the NLs best either.


    This is what they have always done. The Phillies are doing it too. Who cares how good your system is if they are blocked by better, more proven players, or if they are just going to set in AAA all the time.

    You have to trade talent in order to get talent in return.

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    Kind of funny watching the Cards and Brewers go all out to try and win the worst division in baseball. Even if they make the playoffs, they ain't going nowhere.
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    Re: Furcal to Cardinals close..

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Kind of funny watching the Cards and Brewers go all out to try and win the worst division in baseball. Even if they make the playoffs, they ain't going nowhere.
    Thats what they said about the Cards in '06 lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mroby85 View Post
    Thats what they said about the Cards in '06 lol.
    if ur in anything is possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by mroby85 View Post
    Thats what they said about the Cards in '06 lol.
    Probably the worst World Series champ of all time.
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