You're breaking my 16 year old heart, VP.
You're breaking my 16 year old heart, VP.
Board looks like its all over the place, but this thread is dazzling:
http://www.bcb-board.co.uk/phpBB2/vi...846241&start=0
I suppose we can agree to disagree. I think "preening" and "showy" describe some of the best rock frontmen to ever do it, dating from Mick Jagger to Robert Pollard to Pelle Almqvist (indulge me). I suppose we have divergent tastes, as I love the stripped down nature of two-piece bands. There's no hiding, both parts need to stand up, and I think Meg's restrained (unskilled?) drumming complements Jack's virtuosity (overwrought-ness?) nicely.
Love The Strokes too, but strangely enough, I find the instrumentation wonderful and Casablancas supremely lacking. I remember taking note early on that he couldn't even write enough lyrics for their 3-minute songs, he'd just flip the lyrics over at the halfway point (hardly a new trick, I know), but when Julian sang, "I've got nothing to say" over and over again on "Ask Me Anything," I thought, "I know, Julian. I know."
*BaseClogger* (05-12-2014)
I love when people debate music. You guys are getting me in the mood to bash Pavement and Radiohead.
Raisor loves that...
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(Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
-RichRed
Rojo (05-16-2014)
alternating between the scores for Frozen and Fiddler on the Roof. if I were a rich man...let it go...
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yes, this really is how we make our living.
I've been listening to Langhorne Slim's The Way We Move a lot for the better part of a year. It's one of those rare albums where I love every single track. It's an elegantly crafted piece of folk music that appeals to people who love all types of different genres of music.
(Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
-RichRed
The Wild Ones' debut Keep It Safe is magnificent and a great example of how keyboards and electronic sounds can compliment an indie pop band's songs without turning them into 21st century disco dance tracks.
I don't understand the fascination with indy. . .they're almost as homogeneous as power metal.
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I've never understood the Authentic vs. Inauthentic argument. The only truly inauthentic band I can think of is Milli Vanilli. After that, I'm not sure what the term means. Was Dylan inauthentic? He loved fabricating stories about himself and making his early life more quirky. As for the White Stripes, maybe Jack White is a strutting, preening guy. If so, isn't he being very authentic to who he is? To give a baseball example, if Yasiel Puig starting acting like David Eckstein, I would lose interest. If Votto starting acting like Carlos Gomez, I would be skeptical. Authenticity is one of those music terms that gets thrown around and I'm not sure we know exactly what it means and very often have no way of proving it.
Variatio delectat - Cicero
To me it's a very intangible thing and probably 100% a question of taste. Therefore unquantifiable and hard to use as holding real weight in any argument.
It's particularly hard for me because I actually do like showmen, and have strong feelings about the need for stylized affects in all art forms (I hammer this home to students all the time, believe it or not). I think in the case of Jack White it may be the disconnect between his words and his stage presence -- particularly his citing of the blues as his major influence, as mentioned before. That really rubbed me the wrong way. As affected as he was as a performer in that band, it veered (to me) as so pretentious as to be almost making fun of the blues. He also really made a strong effort to talk himself up as such a serious musician, as someone beholden to and driven by music above all else...and then he had that ridiculous little sideshow sibling story going...and going and going and going. That struck me as totally disingenuous and tired.
It could also have been a question of timing. The White Stripes exploded at a time when garage rock was enjoying a renaissance, and for them of all bands to be cited at that time as the best and most accessible...well, it just seemed to me that they had the best publicist or whatever. They were fine, I can see how the stripped-down musical aesthetic was appealing, but their songs were not THAT good. If they were to hit now, and not be the victims of such extraordinary publicity as hailed as the saviors of rock or whatever, I might like them better.
I have not minded Jack White in his other bands. As I said before, I think he is talented. It was the whole package of The White Stripes that never gelled for me.
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
I love people who love music. I do.
This is just a great post, because only someone who loves music could write it.
It's why I love bashing bands I hate- even if I end up liking them later like Dylan, Zeppelin, Nirvana (I think it's something against rabid fan bases). It's an absolute joy piecing together an "argument" that is subjectively based...and when you can't come up with a concrete idea, you just say "Radiohead sounds like someone took a lawnmower and played it against a violin."
There's a little record store clerk in all of us.
BillDoran (05-15-2014)
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