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    2012 team

    I'd try to do the votto/bautista trade
    also id try to move stubbs if ppl think dave s can do the job. (no clue on this guy but he seems to be a better hitter than stubbs)

    my batting order

    dave s
    brandon p
    bautista
    alonzo
    bruce/devin m
    devin m/bruce
    rolen/fransico
    cozart

    how do ppl feel with this lineup? to me it seems legit

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    Re: 2012 team

    Quote Originally Posted by R_Webb18 View Post
    I'd try to do the votto/bautista trade
    also id try to move stubbs if ppl think dave s can do the job. (no clue on this guy but he seems to be a better hitter than stubbs)

    my batting order

    dave s
    brandon p
    bautista
    alonzo
    bruce/devin m
    devin m/bruce
    rolen/fransico
    cozart

    how do ppl feel with this lineup? to me it seems legit
    puts a lot of faith & pressure on very young guys -- Alonso - Mesocaro & Bruce (who has had chances)

    will still need a pitching staff & a manager that is not sleep walking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Righthander View Post
    puts a lot of faith & pressure on very young guys -- Alonso - Mesocaro & Bruce (who has had chances)

    will still need a pitching staff & a manager that is not sleep walking
    true true but i just think its dumb signing old guys that cant play

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    Re: 2012 team

    Quote Originally Posted by R_Webb18 View Post
    I'd try to do the votto/bautista trade
    also id try to move stubbs if ppl think dave s can do the job. (no clue on this guy but he seems to be a better hitter than stubbs)

    my batting order

    dave s
    brandon p
    bautista
    alonzo
    bruce/devin m
    devin m/bruce
    rolen/fransico
    cozart

    how do ppl feel with this lineup? to me it seems legit
    Great minds think alike. I just posted nearly the same comment on the "Bad News Bears" thread. Except I hope Rolen retires.

    I'd also trade Stubbs for pitching, which I stated on the other thread.

    If the Reds weren't so small market and cheap, I'd be willing to trade Stubbs and Bruce to the Dodgers and try and get Kemp. Adding Kemp along with obtaining Bautista would make the Reds offense one of the most dangerous in the NL.

    CF Sappelt
    2B Phillips
    1B Alonso
    LF Bautista
    RF Kemp
    3B Francisco/Frazier
    SS Cozart
    C Hanigan/Mesoraco

    Reds would have traded away Votto, Bruce, and Stubbs.........and rebuilt an entire new 3, 4, 5 part of the lineup and gone with Sappelt at leadoff in lieu of Stubbs. Quite a change, but I'd do it if the Reds had the $$$ to do it. It adds 5 players to the lineup at league minimum in Sappelt, Alonso, Francisco/Frazier, Cozart, and Mesoraco.

    Improve the starting pitching and that lineup makes the postseason. No doubt about it.
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    Re: 2012 team

    Realistically

    Sappelt 7
    Cozart 6
    Votto 3
    Phillips 4
    Bruce 9
    Frazier 5
    Stubbs 8
    Hanigan/Mes 2

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    Re: 2012 team

    oops. wrong thread. nevermind
    Last edited by Spider Tre; 08-08-2011 at 08:27 PM. Reason: ooop
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    Re: 2012 team

    I'd only trade Votto if they if they bring in another big bat AND you resign Brandon Phillips. In which case I'd do whatever it takes to bring in Matt Kemp in left. I'm guessing Stubbs would be part of that deal.

    Sappelt cf
    Phillips 2nd
    Kemp lf
    Bautista 3rd
    Alonso 1rst
    Bruce rf
    Cozart ss
    Mez c
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    Re: 2012 team

    Not exactly what i would personally put out there, but realistically i think it will look along the lines of:

    Sappelt LF
    Phillips 2B
    Votto 1B
    Rolen 3B
    Bruce RF
    Mesoraco C
    Cozart SS
    Stubbs CF

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    Re: 2012 team

    Quote Originally Posted by CrosleyField View Post
    Realistically

    Sappelt 7
    Cozart 6
    Votto 3
    Phillips 4
    Bruce 9
    Frazier 5
    Stubbs 8
    Hanigan/Mes 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrosleyField View Post
    Realistically

    Sappelt 7
    Cozart 6
    Votto 3
    Phillips 4
    Bruce 9
    Frazier 5
    Stubbs 8
    Hanigan/Mes 2
    ive never seen mes play but if he's such a good hitter why would he bat 8th?

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    Re: 2012 team

    Doesn't every Dusty order have to have CF/SS as the top 2 spots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mckbearcat48 View Post
    Doesn't every Dusty order have to have CF/SS as the top 2 spots?
    it does but does not mean it has to

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    I don't think Castilini lets Votto get traded. He is the Reds' first homegrown Superstar since Larkin... and the first since Junior. He stays in Cincy... and Castilini will open up the pocketbook to keep him once the contract expires.

    That being said, here is how I see the lineup next year:

    1. Stubbs CF: I think he finally puts it all together and can bat leadoff.
    2. Cozart/Janish SS
    3. Votto 1B
    4. Phillips 2B
    5. Bruce RF
    6. Yonder/Sappelt LF
    7. Rolen/Frazier 3B
    8. Hanny/Puxatonany Mes

    Rotation:

    1. Cueto
    2. Leake
    3. Homer
    4. Arroyo
    5. (Chapman), Willis, Wood, LeCure.

    Pen:

    Closer: Billy Bray/Chappy
    Masset
    Logan
    Horst
    Lecure/Maloney
    Boxberger

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    Re: 2012 team

    Quote Originally Posted by wabashfalcon View Post
    I don't think Castilini lets Votto get traded. He is the Reds' first homegrown Superstar since Larkin... and the first since Junior. He stays in Cincy... and Castilini will open up the pocketbook to keep him once the contract expires.

    That being said, here is how I see the lineup next year:

    1. Stubbs CF: I think he finally puts it all together and can bat leadoff.
    2. Cozart/Janish SS
    3. Votto 1B
    4. Phillips 2B
    5. Bruce RF
    6. Yonder/Sappelt LF
    7. Rolen/Frazier 3B
    8. Hanny/Puxatonany Mes

    Rotation:

    1. Cueto
    2. Leake
    3. Homer
    4. Arroyo
    5. (Chapman), Willis, Wood, LeCure.

    Pen:

    Closer: Billy Bray/Chappy
    Masset
    Logan
    Horst
    Lecure/Maloney
    Boxberger
    In other words, 2012 is going to look like 2011. Yikes.

    If Phillips is batting cleanup again, kiss next season goodbye.
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    Re: 2012 team

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    In other words, 2012 is going to look like 2011. Yikes.

    If Phillips is batting cleanup again, kiss next season goodbye.
    no way bp bats 4th


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