Votto Trade Value

[Mario-Rijo]

Votto for Bautista is a no brainer. Not sure the Jays would do that though. If I were the Jays GM I'd ask for Leake to be thrown in. Romero is an ace and Bailey is a guy with shoulder problems. The upgrade to the rotation would be enormous and Romero is signed through 2015. Rasmus in the OF picture with Bruce and Stubbs might be pretty good. If I was the TOR GM, I wouldn't make that trade given Votto's current contract situation and Bailey's 3 DL stints and inconsistency.

Votto for Kemp is a win now move. Kemp is a FA after 2012. I probably wouldn't do it if I was the Reds.

Votto, Volquez and Frazier for Zimmerman and Zimmerman is another deal I'd do. Zimmerman would give the Reds the best 3B in the NL who could hit in the middle of the order with Bruce and Alonso. I wouldn't deal Zimmeroman for Votto straight up if I was the Nats GM because of the positional/defensive differences. Jordan Zimmerman would be a solid number two starter. You wouldn't deal Volquez and Frazier for him? The Nats would be the team to pass on this deal.

Votto for Choo and Masterson is probably the deal I like most here. Masterson would also be a huge rotation upgrade and Choo has had a bad year, but that was injury related and he should return to the .880+ OPS guy he was in 2009 and 2010. The Reds would have control for a while. I doubt that CLE would do that though.

I'd pass on Votto for Markakis and Guthrie myself. Not nearly enough.

This just shows how hard it will be to get value for Votto unless the Reds want to take a bunch of kids and start the rebuilding all over again. Its why I'd just keep him as long as possible and deal Alonso for help.

See I just don't see how Votto for Bautista is a no brainer and the Jays would want more. If they did I would reach thru the phone and slap them. Tell 'em to get back to me when Bautista is hitting .260 again and down to 35 jacks or so and then we can talk a reasonable deal. So far the 2nd half of the season this guy is hitting .247 and slugging .450, are the true colors now shining thru, I' would bet just about anyone this gargantuan surge is over as we know it and he's not as good as Votto. Plus he'll be 31 next season and post PED numbers for baseball says 33-34 guys go downhill fast.

[alexad]

If Votto wants out trade him while he has SUPER VALUE. I think Alonso will be a superstar if given the chance.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Call up the Rockies.

Votto for Tulo?
Votto for Cargo?

[RedsManRick]

Call up the Rockies.

Votto for Tulo?
Votto for Cargo?

Tulo > Votto. He's their Votto, only signed to that deal some people want to give Votto. Oh, and he's a GG shortstop. I would give up Votto and more for him, but I don't think he's available for anything short of a true Herschel Walker type deal.

Votto < Cargo. Cargo is a solid player, but last year is probably his high water mark driven by a BABIP spike and he's got a .250 point OPS home/road split. Nice player, but not a guy I'd want as the centerpiece in a Votto trade.

[mth123]

Call up the Rockies.

Votto for Tulo?
Votto for Cargo?

I know Todd Helton is getting up there, but he's signed for 2 more seasons and has an OPS plus of 124 this year. Why would the Rockies create a huge hole elsewhere on the field to get a guy who is of similar value who can only play a position that is capably filled with a franchise icon? Votto will be a free agent when Helton's deal runs out. The Rockies could keep Tulo and go after him then.

[mth123]

See I just don't see how Votto for Bautista is a no brainer and the Jays would want more. If they did I would reach thru the phone and slap them. Tell 'em to get back to me when Bautista is hitting .260 again and down to 35 jacks or so and then we can talk a reasonable deal. So far the 2nd half of the season this guy is hitting .247 and slugging .450, are the true colors now shining thru, I' would bet just about anyone this gargantuan surge is over as we know it and he's not as good as Votto. Plus he'll be 31 next season and post PED numbers for baseball says 33-34 guys go downhill fast.

If I were the Jays I'd figure that I could get a pretty productive 1B while keeping my MVP candidate to play another position as opposed to putting my MVP guy at 1B and being stuck with some league avergae Bozo in RF or at 3B.

Its going to be real hard to get value for Votto because of his position. I can't see a team dealing an MVP caliber guy at another position for a 1B. Even the home town thing will only carry so much weight.

[757690]

I know Todd Helton is getting up there, but he's signed for 2 more seasons and has an OPS plus of 124 this year. Why would the Rockies create a huge hole elsewhere on the field to get a guy who is of similar value who can only play a position that is capably filled with a franchise icon? Votto will be a free agent when Helton's deal runs out. The Rockies could keep Tulo and go after him then.

Helton isn't just "getting up there", he's 38. I doubt the Rockies are depending on him being an above average bat for the final two years of his contract.

And I would think that any team who trades for Votto, does so with the intent of extending him.

Not sure the Rockies are a great fit for a Votto trade, but I don't think Helton figures into their reasoning.

[mth123]

Helton isn't just "getting up there", he's 38. I doubt the Rockies are depending on him being an above average bat for the final two years of his contract.

And I would think that any team who trades for Votto, does so with the intent of extending him.

Not sure the Rockies are a great fit for a Votto trade, but I don't think Helton figures into their reasoning.

Doesn't make sense to me that they would deal Cargo or Tulo for Votto. Wouldn't they be better off with Tulo at SS, Cargo in LF and Helton at 1B than with Votto at 1B and one of the SS or LF spots a huge hole and Helton on the bench? Dealing one of those guys for Votto makes absolutely no sense at all IMO and any less than those guys and I'm not really interested in a deal with Colorado for Votto. I think its a poor match.

[Big Klu]

Doesn't make sense to me that they would deal Cargo or Tulo for Votto. Wouldn't they be better off with Tulo at SS, Cargo in LF and Helton at 1B than with Votto at 1B and one of the SS or LF spots a huge hole and Helton on the bench? Dealing one of those guys for Votto makes absolutely no sense at all IMO and any less than those guys and I'm not really interested in a deal with Colorado for Votto. I think its a poor match.

If Votto were a team player, he would volunteer to move to that hole (SS or LF), and allow Helton to continue to play 1B. Or maybe Helton is a better team player than Votto, and he will move to SS or LF.