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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    THey should be loaded with a payroll of $165,976,381. (The Reds, by comparison, have a total payroll this year of $80,826,667). These figures are from HERE.
    I really don't like to think about these kind of things.Nothings going to change so why worry about it or use it as an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    No one mentioned his defense. And even if they did, one play doesn't tell you anything about ones defensive ability.
    Sappelt has muffed a number of plays in LF so far since he has been up.

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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    At least hammels won't get the win

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    3-1 Phillies on HR.

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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Sappelt has muffed a number of plays in LF so far since he has been up.
    Had Heisey done them, no one would mention it. The problem is, people are remembering them because their sample is so small to work with that mistakes stand out. Sappelt has misplayed two balls by my count. He has probably caught more than that in which no other left fielder we have catches. But we don't remember the positives. We remember the mistakes. Dude is a very good defender.

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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    Originally Posted by mbgrayson
    They should be loaded with a payroll of $165,976,381. (The Reds, by comparison, have a total payroll this year of $80,826,667). These figures are from HERE.

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    I really don't like to think about these kind of things. Nothings going to change so why worry about it or use it as an excuse.
    I'm not worried about it or using it as an excuse, I mentioned it only to explain why the Phillies are 'loaded'. It is simply true; Cliff Lee, Oswalt, Halladay, Utley, Howard, Ibanez, etc. They spend a lot of money keeping guys like that around.
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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Had Heisey done them, no one would mention it. The problem is, people are remembering them because their sample is so small to work with that mistakes stand out. Sappelt has misplayed two balls by my count. He has probably caught more than that in which no other left fielder we have catches. But we don't remember the positives. We remember the mistakes. Dude is a very good defender.
    Sappelt has made a number of muffs. He had two in one inning in an earlier game. Maybe he's more comfortable in center.

    My problem with Dave is I see little upside. Doesn't hit for power. Doesn't walk much. I'm not a huge Heisey fan, but Chris has a lot more pop in his bat.

    Dave seems like a singles hitter without the patience to me. He does make contact usually, which seems like his best attribute.

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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    THey should be loaded with a payroll of $165,976,381. (The Reds, by comparison, have a total payroll this year of $80,826,667). These figures are from HERE.
    Well, the Reds are half the team the Phillies are then.

    You know what, in the middle of the season, I keep forgetting things like payroll. Funny, but I only think about that kind fo thing during the offseason- once the bell rings, at least in my mind, I think all of the teams start from the same starting line.

    The money makes the biggest difference during the last 2 months of the season, and during the playoffs, when pitching steps up and takes it's place as the most important part of the game.
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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    Originally Posted by mbgrayson
    They should be loaded with a payroll of $165,976,381. (The Reds, by comparison, have a total payroll this year of $80,826,667). These figures are from HERE.



    I'm not worried about it or using it as an excuse, I mentioned it only to explain why the Phillies are 'loaded'. It is simply true; Cliff Lee, Oswalt, Halladay, Utley, Howard, Ibanez, etc. They spend a lot of money keeping guys like that around.
    I would say the biggest difference between them and the Reds is that they spend a lot of money to acquire guys but now I'm making excuses.

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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hook View Post
    I would say the biggest difference between them and the Reds is that they spend a lot of money to acquire guys but now I'm making excuses.
    The Phils have an advantage over other NL teams. The umps call every Philly pitch a strike.

    The playoffs last year were an example. This game is similar. I think O Cabrera said it after Halliday's no hitter.

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    Re: 8/29/11- Reds vs. Phillies, "Alonso's 3B Debut"

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Sappelt has made a number of muffs. He had two in one inning in an earlier game. Maybe he's more comfortable in center.

    My problem with Dave is I see little upside. Doesn't hit for power. Doesn't walk much. I'm not a huge Heisey fan, but Chris has a lot more pop in his bat.

    Dave seems like a singles hitter without the patience to me. He does make contact usually, which seems like his best attribute.
    How many times have you watched Dave play? He has some pop in his bat. He is more patient than he has shown. I think he is still feeling/pressing some. He doesn't quite look the same as he did in the minors. In the long run, I think he is going to be just fine.

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    Sappelt with a hustle hit there, knocks in a run.


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