"When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
Well, for me it's Torreyes. He may not have the power, but everything else he's doing off the charts. But Soto, Phipps & Mesoraco certainly all deserve it too. Should be a tough call. But Hamilton?!? No thanks.
David Vidal
krm, I went to Zebulon last year and had the same impression. Carolina seems to play OK for power hitters, but those high walls definitely make it appear forbidding. Meanwhile, good comparisons with Francisco. To me, he's the standard for power hitters in the organization.
This should be an interesting poll. Some of the comments make me consider moving Soto higher; but on the other hand, he's so much more one-dimensional than the other top guys. And that's odd, in a way. You'd think that a guy who was signed as a shortstop would not be wholly confined to first base, but that seems to be the case.
Torreyes has been very good, but I don't give it to him due to hitting behind Hamilton (which has a massive effect on how these inexperienced A-ball pitchers throw to him), and a smaller sample size.
Grandal has been largely ignored this season, but has put up some impressive numbers. He takes walks, and has a higher OPS than Mesoraco. Add that to him continuing to develop his switch-hitting skills, and I'm highly encouraged. Remember that this is his first full minor league season, and he's already knocking on the door of AAA.
But for hitting 30 homers in the short amount of time that he had, I can't give this to anyone other than Soto. There are a lot of guys like him who never put it together, but he finally seems to have. What's more, he's younger than you'd think for someone who's been around as long as he has. A little more polish, and I see him as an above-average future MLB first baseman.
I can understand the small sample size argument. But if his results this year were a huge increase over what he's done previously, I could understand the hesitation due to the Billy-effect. But all he's done is continue to do what he's been doing in the minors....hit...a LOT. I'm sure hitting behind Hamilton doesn't hurt, but Torreyes was going to hit regardless I'd think.
Mesoraco was named the Bats MVP today per twitter. Or maybe that was a few days ago. sometimes Twitter is a help sometimes..
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There are more good candidates this year than at any time that I can remember. This thread is proof that theReds could make a deal or two and still be well stocked.
I'll take Soto. Lee May for a new generation.
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MiLB Reds POTY:
Yaz
Yonder
Soto
Mes
Torreyes
Vidal
Lutz
Campbell
Hamilton
And I would have traded any four of them for Shields and Pence.
If I could choose the four, I'd make the deal for Shields.
Any four, IMO, is overpayment.
A deal of Mesoraco, Alonso, Torreyes, and Hamilton would have to include not just a TOR pitcher, but a cleanup bat not on the 2011 market, both at cost certainty with an almost virtual lock to outperform their contracts.
Agreed. What I mean is I would have, back in July, moved any 2 for Shields and any 2 for Pence. That's the TOR and Big Bat we'd needed back then to give MLW a run for their money.
So Yonder and Mes for Shields
And Torreyes, Hamilton for Pence.
Steep price, but I'd have paid it for top tier/young big league all-stars. You bet.
Soto was my pick for breakout player.
He broke out.
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
Tough call, but I'd go Mez because of how consistent he's been at a high level.
Baserunning is part of the offensive package... Is 30 HR's more impressive than 90+ sb's? I've heard more than 1 story of how disruptive Hamilton is by being on first base alone... I haven't heard anything about how a pitcher reacts after allowing Soto to clear the bases...
2010 Mock Draft Selections (picking for Rays)
Bryce Brentz
Brandon Workman
Kris Bryant
Matt Lipka
Rick Hague
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