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    Wait a minute..............Jacoby Ellsbury

    Has 27 HR? I saw this tonight, and my jaw hit the floor. I had no clue, where the heck have I been? After all the injuries he had last year, I'd say he's a prime candidate in a couple of years to be crying on 60 minutes about how he used steroids to come back from injuries, and he hit a bunch of HR's.

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    Wow. No one is safe these days are they? If anyone hits 20 HR's they are a steroid user aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Wow. No one is safe these days are they? If anyone hits 20 HR's they are a steroid user aren't they?
    I'm not usually one to jump on the bandwagon, but this is darn near Finleyesque, very, very unexpected, and coming off of a long injury rehab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Wow. No one is safe these days are they? If anyone hits 20 HR's they are a steroid user aren't they?
    What are you hiding Doug? You show up out of nowhere just shy of six years ago with knowledge of the minor leagues that's historically unprecedented on Redszone. I don't want to point fingers here, but where there's smoke there's always fire.
    How do we know he's not Mel Torme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Wow. No one is safe these days are they? If anyone hits 20 HR's they are a steroid user aren't they?
    Pretty funny/sad eh?

    Davey Johnson hit over 40 HR's in 1973, I'm thinking the juice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Davey Johnson hit over 40 HR's in 1973, I'm thinking the juice too.
    Tobacco juice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    Tobacco juice
    One of the reasons Johnson was on the Braves was that he wanted more power and put on muscle to achieve that. Earl Weaver said it made him slow in the field and bad on the DP which to him was unacceptable, even if the payback was some power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    One of the reasons Johnson was on the Braves was that he wanted more power and put on muscle to achieve that. Earl Weaver said it made him slow in the field and bad on the DP which to him was unacceptable, even if the payback was some power.
    Hopefully Janish never bulks up for power!

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    Re: Wait a minute..............Jacoby Ellsbury

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Wow. No one is safe these days are they? If anyone hits 20 HR's they are a steroid user aren't they?
    I get this, but if no one asks questions, we end up where we were in 2006. Being vigilant is good, and the watch isn't really national per se - tainting the national conversation, it's just part of the conversation about baseball among fans. Hopefully some of the grumbling can keep players honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Wow. No one is safe these days are they? If anyone hits 20 HR's they are a steroid user aren't they?
    What? Doug, you're missing the point unless you are just being smart. I know you are educated on who he is, but your comment makes no sense. He is the ultimate point your finger at him candidate. If someone like Brian McCann hit 50 HR's and someone called him out for possible juice, then I could see you saying "no one is safe these days."

    Prior to this year:
    07-10 = 1372 AB's with 20 HR; 69 AB per HR
    2011 = 596 AB's with 27 HR; 22 AB per HR

    Even in the minor leagues he had 10 HR in 1049 AB's; 105 AB per HR

    This guy had 30 power at best! Now he's dropping serious bombs, and hitting them very far.

    Certainly not saying he's on anything, but if they do HGH testing in the bigs next year and he gets popped, I wouldn't be surprised one single bit. There are a lot more players out there doing stuff that people just don't expect.

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    Red Sox effect...

    Not much different than what Granderson has done to a lesser extent.
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    Re: Wait a minute..............Jacoby Ellsbury

    Scouts have been projecting 20+ HR power for Ellsbury for years.
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    Re: Wait a minute..............Jacoby Ellsbury

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Scouts have been projecting 20+ HR power for Ellsbury for years.
    I'm not buying that. He had 10 career minor league home runs in almost 1200 PA's. 20 career HR's in almost the same number of MLB PA's.

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    Re: Wait a minute..............Jacoby Ellsbury

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    I'm not buying that. He had 10 career minor league home runs in almost 1200 PA's. 20 career HR's in almost the same number of MLB PA's.
    Wasn't Stubbs in a similar situation? Power projection but very limited power displayed?
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