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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Apparently the mysterious chronic medical condition that caused Caleb Gulledge to be medically disqualified from Alabama and roused a tearful, anguished goodbye from Coach Saban this spring as Bama needed to reduce its roster from 97 to 85 has magically been cured. Go figure!

    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...eb_gulled.html
    Caleb Gulledge has a herniated L4 and L5 in his back which is a good reason for a team to medically disqualify an athlete. It is not too crazy to think that an FCS team would do everything they could to play a kid that is a 3-4 star prospect.

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    I hate the NCAA.
    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...graph-signings
    The value of Manziel is clear in the memorabilia and appearance market: Independent merchandiser Aggieland Outfitters recently auctioned off six helmets signed by Manziel and Texas A&M's other Heisman Trophy winner, John David Crow, for $81,000. Texas A&M's booster organization, the 12th Man Foundation, sold a table for six, where Manziel and Crow will sit at the team's Kickoff Dinner later this month, for $20,000.

    Manziel can't sell his autograph for 10 cents or he could be suspended.

    It really is time for all of this crap to end.

    Maziel would be so much better off if college football didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VottoFan54 View Post
    Caleb Gulledge has a herniated L4 and L5 in his back which is a good reason for a team to medically disqualify an athlete. It is not too crazy to think that an FCS team would do everything they could to play a kid that is a 3-4 star prospect.
    I guess he doesn't need those playing football for Jacksonville State? I tend to think it is crazy to suggest a player can't play but a smaller college would run him out anyway.

    Saban had a numbers problem and he had better players than Caleb, for whatever reason.
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    I guess he doesn't need those playing football for Jacksonville State? I tend to think it is crazy to suggest a player can't play but a smaller college would run him out anyway.

    Saban had a numbers problem and he had better players than Caleb, for whatever reason.
    You have never heard of someone recieving different advice from two different doctors? It is actually fairly common. Jarvis Jones is a recent example of this happening.

    http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010...rgia-bulldogs/

    Jones has spent the last two days in Athens touring the school and football facilities and meeting with medical personnel to discuss the neck injury that cut short his freshman season at USC.

    Jones, then a freshman linebacker, sprained his neck in the Trojans’ eighth game last season and had to sit out the rest of the year. USC doctors subsequently would not clear Jones for spring practice this year.

    McGee said Jones sought a second and third opinion and was told he should be able to continue his career but the Trojans still relented. He finally asked for and was granted a release from USC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VottoFan54 View Post
    You have never heard of someone recieving different advice from two different doctors? It is actually fairly common. Jarvis Jones is a recent example of this happening.

    http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2010...rgia-bulldogs/
    And Saban went with the advice that helped him figure out a way to make 12 players go away....
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    And Saban went with the advice that helped him figure out a way to make 12 players go away....
    I'm not sure that Saban even played a role in that decision. If the medical staff says that a kid can't play, then he can't play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VottoFan54 View Post
    I'm not sure that Saban even played a role in that decision. If the medical staff says that a kid can't play, then he can't play.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...Tabs%3Darticle

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    If all three of these kids had suffered through Saban's processing, why was only one quoted?

    This article outlines a situation that occurs at every single level of football, a player thinks he is healthy enough to play, but the coach thinks it is too risky. You have never heard of this happening? One guy had a shoulder problem, another one a back problem, and the last one an ACL injury. All three of these are legitimate injuries. They thought they were healthy enough to play, but they failed physicals.

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    If all three of these kids had suffered through Saban's processing, why was only one quoted?

    This article outlines a situation that occurs at every single level of football, a player thinks he is healthy enough to play, but the coach thinks it is too risky. You have never heard of this happening? One guy had a shoulder problem, another one a back problem, and the last one an ACL injury. All three of these are legitimate injuries. They thought they were healthy enough to play, but they failed physicals.
    I think even members of the Red Elephant Club are snickering.....
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    I think even members of the Red Elephant Club are snickering.....
    Saban would definitely be better off playing these kids that have serious medical issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VottoFan54 View Post
    Saban would definitely be better off playing these kids that have serious medical issues.
    While your little emoticon guy is rolling it's eyes, it can also keep ignoring the reality of Bama roster management. Saban can't sign 125 guys to keep them from oing elsewhere like Bear did. For instance, if Saban signs say 97, he has to make 12 go away.
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    Quote Originally Posted by VottoFan54 View Post
    Saban would definitely be better off playing these kids that have serious medical issues.
    So why isn't Jacksonville State catching more heat for playing a kid with a serious medical condition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    While your little emoticon guy is rolling it's eyes, it can also keep ignoring the reality of Bama roster management. Saban can't sign 125 guys to keep them from oing elsewhere like Bear did. For instance, if Saban signs say 97, he has to make 12 go away.
    Saban and the Alabama medical staff determined that Gulledge had an injury severe enough to end his playing career. I don't see how it's fair to speculate on whether there may have been other motives. Seems comparable to any other decision where the public isn't privy to the full details, you know, kind of like an NCAA ruling. Not sure how one can have it both ways. Either you take these announcements at face value, or you don't.

    I suppose one could choose to believe that which supports ideas favorable to their position, and at other times make blind accusations when the position doesn't, but that just doesn't seem very sporting now, does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillDoran View Post
    Saban and the Alabama medical staff determined that Gulledge had an injury severe enough to end his playing career. I don't see how it's fair to speculate on whether there may have been other motives. Seems comparable to any other decision where the public isn't privy to the full details, you know, kind of like an NCAA ruling. Not sure how one can have it both ways. Either you take these announcements at face value, or you don't.

    I suppose one could choose to believe that which supports ideas favorable to their position, and at other times make blind accusations when the position doesn't, but that just doesn't seem very sporting now, does it?
    Holy false equivalencies Batman!!!!
    "This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed27 View Post
    So why isn't Jacksonville State catching more heat for playing a kid with a serious medical condition?
    Because they are Jacksonville State. The media would much rather bash big, bad Alabama than Jacksonville State, they know that they don't get readers by talking about FCS schools.


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