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    Re: Trade Proposal: Toronto & Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    Would you people please stop with all of these multi-player megadeals that make perfect sense? Walt has no time for that. He is out scouring the ends of the earth for the next Renteria or Cabrera or Lewis or Taveras.
    How often do multiplayer mega deals actually happen?

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    Re: Trade Proposal: Toronto & Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by brm7675 View Post
    How often do multiplayer mega deals actually happen?
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    Re: Trade Proposal: Toronto & Cincinnati

    can we trade brm for Dave Van Gorder or Dann Bilardello

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    Re: Trade Proposal: Toronto & Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by nux fan View Post
    can we trade brm for Dave Van Gorder or Dann Bilardello
    Throw in Bill Plummer and it's a deal!

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    Re: Trade Proposal: Toronto & Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    If the Reds could pry 2 topnotch starting pitchers away from Toronto for Votto and Stubbs, and one or two of our young pitchers not named Cueto or Leake, I'd consider it.

    Votto (rising stud), Stubbs (former #1 pick), Bailey (former #1 pick), Volquez (former cy young candidate) for Alvarez (young), Drabek (unproven), Bautista (older than most).

    2B Phillips
    SS Cozart
    1B Alonso
    LF Bautista
    CF Heisey
    RF Bruce
    3B Francisco/Rolen
    C Hanigan/Mez

    Potential to get 20+ HR's out of 7 of those positions.

    Cueto
    Alvarez (cheap)
    Leake (cheap)
    Arroyo
    Drabek (cheap)
    This is probably a pretty reasonable trade for both sides with a few minor tweaks. I'm not that high on Volquez, as he reminds me of Alvarez without the plus command/control. Stubbs is solid but we already have a ton of outfield depth.

    In the end, a lot of the posters here are probably right, almost any move would have to involve Bautista and Votto which would be a lateral move. As long as you guys are in win now mode I'm thinking a prospect package alone won't get it done no matter how good the package.

    Maybe in 2013 when Votto's closer to free agency we could revisit. Remember that Adrian Gonzalez got the Padres Rizzo, Kelly, and Fuentes, the former two being super overrated as far as I'm concerned.

    As far as a pure prospect package I think this would beat the Gonzalez one.

    Votto for Morrow, Drabek, Thames, Marisnick, Hechavarria.

    That is one major league starter with two more Arby's years, our top pitching prospect from last year controllable for six more years, a decent left fielder with power controllable for five, our second best prospect, and our 12th best prospect and a shortstop.

    OR

    Morrow, Drabek, flip our top prospect, C. D'Arnaud to Colorado for 3b Nolan Arenado, and Marisnick (our second best prospect) Hechavarria.

    You guys get two starters a third baseman and a five tool outfielder, and a shortstop of the future.

    Mind you, most Blue Jays Fans would call this an extreme overpayment on our part.

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    Re: Trade Proposal: Toronto & Cincinnati

    Alonso
    Stubbs
    Broxberger

    for:

    Shields

    Or:

    Votto
    Bailey / Volquez
    Wood

    for

    Trout
    Trumbo
    Aybar

    Then we need to sign David Dejeus and fire Dusty! Which would put us at:

    C - Hanigan, Mesoraco
    1B - Trumbo
    2B - Phillips, Frazier
    SS - Aybar, Cueto
    3B - Rolen, Francisco
    LF - DeJesus
    CF - Trout, Heisey
    RF - Bruce

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    Re: Trade Proposal: Toronto & Cincinnati

    Quote Originally Posted by dMaus14 View Post
    Alonso
    Stubbs
    Broxberger

    for:

    Shields

    Or:

    Votto
    Bailey / Volquez
    Wood

    for

    Trout
    Trumbo
    Aybar

    Then we need to sign David Dejeus and fire Dusty! Which would put us at:

    C - Hanigan, Mesoraco
    1B - Trumbo
    2B - Phillips, Frazier
    SS - Aybar, Cueto
    3B - Rolen, Francisco
    LF - DeJesus
    CF - Trout, Heisey
    RF - Bruce


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