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    Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

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    The Reds tried to acquire Hunter Pence from the Astros, according to Hal McCoy of the Dayton Daily News, and GM Walt Jocketty has said he thought he made a better offer to Houston than the one it eventually accepted from the Phillies. McCoy reports that the Astros wanted Devin Mesoraco and adds that lefty Aroldis Chapman was not available.
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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Didn't we hear the same thing from Walt last year in regards to Cliff Lee? That our package was supposedly better than the Rangers'

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    Heh, if you say so Walt. Uh huh, The Reds have been in on every big trade the last few years. And offering a better package! Opposing GMs must just really hate The Reds.

    That, or Walt doesn't want to admit he's been asleep at the wheel.
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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    Heh, if you say so Walt. Uh huh, The Reds have been in on every big trade the last few years. And offering a better package! Opposing GMs must just really hate The Reds.

    That, or Walt doesn't want to admit he's been asleep at the wheel.
    Maybe to him, his offer was better than what the Phillies offered. Not everyone sees all of these players in the same light. Mesoraco is certainly a better prospect than anyone that was traded for Pence, but maybe the other parts weren't as good as the ones offered and that is what swayed the trade.

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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Or maybe he's telling the truth.

    It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Lee and Pence would prefer to play for the best team in the National League.
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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62 View Post
    Or maybe he's telling the truth.

    It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Lee and Pence would prefer to play for the best team in the National League.
    What does that have to do with trading for them? They weren't free agents.
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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Teams often won't trade their best players to a division rival. It's like surrendering a walk -- it can come back to haunt you.

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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62 View Post
    Or maybe he's telling the truth.

    It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Lee and Pence would prefer to play for the best team in the National League.
    Or that Houston doesn't want t0 see Pence 18 or so times next year.

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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    I once asked out Morgan Fairchild.

    Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket.

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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    WJ doesn't strike me as playing Jim Bowden games. He seems to be a straight shooter and professional, so I find it far fetched to consider that he just made this up.
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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Pence is a very expensive overrated player.

    Sure he helps the Phillies who don't have to worry about the overrated part with a huge payroll.

    But Pence would have been very poor value in lost trade chips and used up payroll space.

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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    I once asked out Morgan Fairchild.

    Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket.
    I asked out a future playmate in High School...

    She didn't go out with me, but I gave it a go. She had a better deal lined up with one of the cool kids

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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    I asked out a future playmate in High School...

    She didn't go out with me, but I gave it a go. She had a better deal lined up with one of the cool kids
    My girlfriend is a Playmate....

    Ok a pornstar. But should still count.

    I.wanted nothing to do with Pence. Especially with Mez as the centerpiece. I would wager Mez has a higher WAR over the next 5 years.
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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    There was an Astros scout watching Yas, Soto and others before the deadline.

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    Re: Jocketty says Reds tried to acquire Pence

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Pence is a very expensive overrated player.

    Sure he helps the Phillies who don't have to worry about the overrated part with a huge payroll.

    But Pence would have been very poor value in lost trade chips and used up payroll space.
    Ha wow, I hope that was pure sarcasm and I just did not get it. It almost has to be right?
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