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    2011 Ohio State Football - What is next?

    Thought I would start a new thread as the other thread is reaching the magical plateau, where it will scurry off to the archives.

    I like the throwback uniform. It keeps things fresh, and it has to excite the players.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Fickle is an idiot!
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    Jeez, this has been the week for crazy games!

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    Fun game to watch, lots of issues with OSU, they are held together with duct tape and chewing gum, but it kind of works.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Fun game to watch, lots of issues with OSU, they are held together with duct tape and chewing gum, but it kind of works.
    I thought they looked pretty solid against a pretty good team.I agree that it was a fun game to watch.

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    I thought they looked pretty solid against a pretty good team.I agree that it was a fun game to watch.
    Oh, no doubt, I just see problems that we aren't used to seeing at Ohio State.

    1. The secondary play has been bad. Especially late in games.
    2. The pass rush is just adequate.
    3. Tackling is at a level below what tOSU has exhibited in many years.

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    4. The offense is what can be expected, a young group with growing pains, but they are growing. Braxton Miller may just be the stud, we thought he was going to be.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Oh, no doubt, I just see problems that we aren't used to seeing at Ohio State.

    1. The secondary play has been bad. Especially late in games.
    2. The pass rush is just adequate.
    3. Tackling is at a level below what tOSU has exhibited in many years.

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    4. The offense is what can be expected, a young group with growing pains, but they are growing. Braxton Miller may just be the stud, we thought he was going to be.
    I think our corners are ok. I think our safeties have been a train wreck. But that's just me, and it may be a rather silly observation. The pass rush minus Simon is a problem indeed, but it's a very young defensive line rotation, so I'd give it some time. Hankins in the middle isn't great at rushing the passer, but he was a huge difference against Wisconsin this time around stopping the run. And the poor tackling comes with youth. We saw many of these same problems in 2004, and by 2005 and 2006, we were watching one of the greatest teams in years lace up at OSU.

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    I'm just happy that the team continues to get better and show progress. They would probably have lost this game two or three games ago, but found a way tonight. The amount of youth on this team is mind blowing right now. True freshman Braxton Miller completing the game winning TD to true freshmen Evan Spencer. True freshman Ryan Shazier blocking that punt and being scooped up by true freshmen Doran Grant. True freshmen Bradley Roby was solid at CB all night and did a good job in run support.

    Honestly it shouldn't have been as close as it was. I think OSU largely outplayed Wisconsin and the better team won.

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    I really do not want Fickell back, because that probably means that Jim Bollman is still around. If his QB can't handle a screen pass, a slant, a few routes over the middle, or the option, then play someone else. A coach who doesn't have the confidence in his own ability to let his players make plays instead of trying to keep from making mistakes needs to find another line of work. Running a variety of 4 plays a game is insanity inducing.
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    Yeah, it's obvious Fickell is getting better and it's a lot to expect a guy with no head coaching experience to come in and take over in a situation like he did. I just fear that the team showing improvement will mean Fickell becomes the permanent head coach. He's just not ready for that. I think it would be a tough sell to recruits and I'd be more worried about that than the actual coaching on saturdays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWM View Post
    Yeah, it's obvious Fickell is getting better and it's a lot to expect a guy with no head coaching experience to come in and take over in a situation like he did. I just fear that the team showing improvement will mean Fickell becomes the permanent head coach. He's just not ready for that. I think it would be a tough sell to recruits and I'd be more worried about that than the actual coaching on saturdays.
    The job is Urban Meyer's if he wants it. Actually let me correct myself... the job if Urban Meyer's if he decides to take it. He wants it... but he has to decide if he wants to be back on the sidelines next season.

    They've gotten the numbers, coaching budgets and all that stuff already out of the way. It's just a matter of being offered and then getting an acceptance. I don't anticipate Fickell being retained regardless of what happens the rest of the season... unless Meyer decides to stay in the booth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    The job is Urban Meyer's if he wants it. Actually let me correct myself... the job if Urban Meyer's if he decides to take it. He wants it... but he has to decide if he wants to be back on the sidelines next season.

    They've gotten the numbers, coaching budgets and all that stuff already out of the way. It's just a matter of being offered and then getting an acceptance. I don't anticipate Fickell being retained regardless of what happens the rest of the season... unless Meyer decides to stay in the booth.
    So are you saying that a deal has already been negotiated with a guy that may or may not want to coach again?If so when did this take place?I know you've been around the program and I'm sure you have a source or two but I really find this hard to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hook View Post
    So are you saying that a deal has already been negotiated with a guy that may or may not want to coach again?If so when did this take place?I know you've been around the program and I'm sure you have a source or two but I really find this hard to believe.
    Meyer's been having discussions with Ohio State for a couple months. In fact, they reached out to Meyer way back in early June, though they haven't maintained constant contact until the last several weeks. He told Ohio State he wanted $5 million (give or take) and competitive budget for assistants' salaries. Ohio State, naturally, told him that would not be an issue.

    Meyer has not been promised the job, nor has he committed to it if he were offered. However, it's been clear that he's their top priority and he's made it clear he's very interested in the job. The thing is: he's really itching to coach again, and his wife actually was enjoying being the 'coach's wife' more than the 'broadcaster's wife' so to speak. He's just not enjoying broadcasting as much as he was coaching. The issue is that if he gets back into coaching, he's going to want to delegate some of the tasks he ordinarily took on to his assistants, as he doesn't want to overwork himself.

    I guess the best way to describe the situation is not that they have a deal in place, but the major details are mostly already ironed out if the job is offered/accepted. If the job is offered, they'll go forward figuring out the smaller details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Meyer's been having discussions with Ohio State for a couple months. In fact, they reached out to Meyer way back in early June, though they haven't maintained constant contact until the last several weeks. He told Ohio State he wanted $5 million (give or take) and competitive budget for assistants' salaries. Ohio State, naturally, told him that would not be an issue.

    Meyer has not been promised the job, nor has he committed to it if he were offered. However, it's been clear that he's their top priority and he's made it clear he's very interested in the job. The thing is: he's really itching to coach again, and his wife actually was enjoying being the 'coach's wife' more than the 'broadcaster's wife' so to speak. He's just not enjoying broadcasting as much as he was coaching. The issue is that if he gets back into coaching, he's going to want to delegate some of the tasks he ordinarily took on to his assistants, as he doesn't want to overwork himself.

    I guess the best way to describe the situation is not that they have a deal in place, but the major details are mostly already ironed out if the job is offered/accepted. If the job is offered, they'll go forward figuring out the smaller details.
    So what hangups do you foresee? Sounds like there are none to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Meyer's been having discussions with Ohio State for a couple months. In fact, they reached out to Meyer way back in early June, though they haven't maintained constant contact until the last several weeks. He told Ohio State he wanted $5 million (give or take) and competitive budget for assistants' salaries. Ohio State, naturally, told him that would not be an issue.

    Meyer has not been promised the job, nor has he committed to it if he were offered. However, it's been clear that he's their top priority and he's made it clear he's very interested in the job. The thing is: he's really itching to coach again, and his wife actually was enjoying being the 'coach's wife' more than the 'broadcaster's wife' so to speak. He's just not enjoying broadcasting as much as he was coaching. The issue is that if he gets back into coaching, he's going to want to delegate some of the tasks he ordinarily took on to his assistants, as he doesn't want to overwork himself.

    I guess the best way to describe the situation is not that they have a deal in place, but the major details are mostly already ironed out if the job is offered/accepted. If the job is offered, they'll go forward figuring out the smaller details.
    I guess what I find hard to believe is that Fickell could go 11-3 with a Big 10 championship,BCS bowl win and still not be considered if Meyer says he wants the job.


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