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    Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    "Reds exercise Phillips' 2012 option, decline Cordero's option, outright Burton and Thompson. Maloney was claimed off waivers by the Twins."

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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Jocketty says they're still talking long-term deals with both players and that the "door is open" for Cordero to return under a re-structured contract.

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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Considering how many closers there are available, I hope the Reds have no problem letting Cordero walk away if he doesn't agree to their terms.

    Heath Bell and Jonathon Papelbon will probably get around $7-8M a year for two years, and they are significantly better than Cordero. If I'm the Reds, I offer $5M total for two years as a take it or leave it offer. I am positive the Reds can get someone just as good, if not better, for that price.
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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Well I agree in principle that I hope the Reds don't just take the easy path and re-sign Cordero without looking at comparable options.
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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Well I agree in principle that I hope the Reds don't just take the easy path and re-sign Cordero without looking at comparable options.
    And I hope the Reds don't take the path of waving goodbye to Cordero, failing to sign another established closer, and winding up using a setup man as a closer. Some non-closer picked up in late January off the scrap heap.

    Would a Heath Bell or a Papelbon come to the Reds? Would they pitch at GABP? Maybe they'd command much more $ than Coco at this stage.

    I'm all for looking at the alternatives, but I remember the pre-Coco days when the 8th and 9th innings were nightmares.

    I can live with a little heartburn in the ninth inning. Not sure how I would handle repeated meltdowns.
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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    And I hope the complete opposite. Let Cordero walk, find a cheap closer in Boxberger, or Ondrusek or someone, and reallocate the resources.

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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I can live with a little heartburn in the ninth inning. Not sure how I would handle repeated meltdowns.
    Agreed 110%

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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    And I hope the complete opposite. Let Cordero walk, find a cheap closer in Boxberger, or Ondrusek or someone, and reallocate the resources.
    Agreed. Fill the other holes first.
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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    And I hope the complete opposite. Let Cordero walk, find a cheap closer in Boxberger, or Ondrusek or someone, and reallocate the resources.
    What Jax said.
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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    And I hope the complete opposite. Let Cordero walk, find a cheap closer in Boxberger, or Ondrusek or someone, and reallocate the resources.
    x 2, 3, and 4!
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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    I'm wondering how many of the people preferring to let a kid like Boxberger close were around when we had Guardado & Weathers as our closers. Have fans so quickly forgotten what our bullpen was like BEFORE Cordero? For a team that's thinking of contending...going into the season with a completely unproven pitcher in the closers role is kinda foolhardy IMO.
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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Sam LeCure as Closer works for me. Best K rate of all relievers in 2011 not named Chapman.

    and a killer stache.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Sam LeCure as Closer works for me. Best K rate of all relievers in 2011 not named Chapman.

    and a killer stache.
    I like it.

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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    For the record, the 9th inning never was a big problem for the Reds last decade. For a brief time it was the 6-8th inning that was giving them fits.

    Weathers actually was a decent closer, the problem was getting to him. Cordero was brought in so that Weathers could be that bridge to the 9th. It would have been much more prudent (and cheaper) to keep Weathers as the closer, and just get a good setup guy.
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    Re: Reds exercise Phillips' option; Decline Cordero's

    Where does this officially put the Reds concerning payroll ($50M?)?
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