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    Is this family court judge unfit?

    This video seems to speak for itself. At least I can't imagine a context where the content of this video could be taken out of context.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/justic...ing/?hpt=hp_t2

    Can a judge do this and still be trusted to do his job?
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    This video seems to speak for itself. At least I can't imagine a context where the content of this video could be taken out of context.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/02/justic...ing/?hpt=hp_t2

    Can a judge do this and still be trusted to do his job?
    I can understand that this beating needs to be investigated to determine if it was legal corporal punishment or illegal abuse. If it is determined to be abuse, then the judge should lose his job, if not then the judge should be retained. Either way, he will likely not get reelected. See the link below for the difference between corporal punishment and abuse.

    http://resources.lawinfo.com/en/Arti...ome-abuse.html

    It seems to me that his actions on this video would not legally constitute abuse.
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    It happened in Texas. Kid is lucky he didn't just shoot her.
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Corporal punishment should never last longer than a minute. Imagine someone hitting you repeatedly for a minute. Usually 10 seconds is enough to be very effective.

    Anything longer than a minute is usually considered abuse. This lasted 7 1/2 minutes. It's not even a close call.
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    While I personally think his actions are reprehensible, even if the actions were criminal, the statute of limitations for these actions is 5 years -- per CNN. So there probably won't be legs to the "news story" angle on this. Maybe he'll step down, maybe not. He probably won't be re-elected.
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    I think that he can do that and still be trusted to do his job. I think he may have gone a little too far there for my own personal taste, but I also don't think that is child abuse either.

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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Using a belt and swinging it with the force that he was using is overboard. I'm fine with spanking and whatnot, but swinging a belt as hard as possible to inflict pain on your child for over 7 straight minutes is definitely child abuse in my opinion.

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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    While I personally think his actions are reprehensible, even if the actions were criminal, the statute of limitations for these actions is 5 years -- per CNN. So there probably won't be legs to the "news story" angle on this. Maybe he'll step down, maybe not. He probably won't be re-elected.
    The daughter could claim that the abuse was ongoing for a number of years after that video. The video could certainly serve as evidence to support that claim.
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool View Post
    The daughter could claim that the abuse was ongoing for a number of years after that video. The video could certainly serve as evidence to support that claim.
    The video would support the initial claim of abuse. But there's no evidence that it was ongoing.
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    The video would support the initial claim of abuse. But there's no evidence that it was ongoing.
    None that we know of ... yet. Who knows if anything else might come out.
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Corporal punishment should never last longer than a minute. Imagine someone hitting you repeatedly for a minute. Usually 10 seconds is enough to be very effective.

    Anything longer than a minute is usually considered abuse. This lasted 7 1/2 minutes. It's not even a close call.
    A minute is still one minute too long in my book.
    Guys like this judge make my blood boil, we should string him up and...(oops, wait a minute).
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Frankly, I'm shocked that anyone is ok with what went on in that video, even though I should really know better.
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    He might of seemed a little over the top but in todays day and age when poor behavior is ignored by parents it is kinda nice to see a parent correct a child as opposed to ignoring it and flipping through the channels.
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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    I sure am glad a few of you aren't my dad.

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    Re: Is this family court judge unfit?

    Just curious if any of the people that think this was ok have seen the full 7 minute version or just the cut up one in the link above. The full video also shows him grabbing her by the throat a couple of minutes in. Honestly I can't comprehend how someone could beat a dog with a leather belt for 7 minutes let alone another human being. Maybe this just brings up bad memories from my own experience with a abusive father, but the full 7 minute video is hard to watch. Actually it kinda ruined my day.
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