What did Joe say? No one knows what Joe actually said. I don't particullarly care to make assumptions about stuff I don't know about.“After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps.”
Sandusky is in jail for the rest of his life, Paterno is dead, Curley and the rest of the characters are being tried in court. IMO the people that need to be punished are being punished. You shouldn't punish the current football players who had absolutley nothing to do with this situation. You shouldn't give PSU the death penailty because it would effect all the other student athletes at PSU.
I think when everything began to come out last October/November PSU acted in the proper way. The people who needed to be fired were fired. They hired a new football coach from outside the university. Kick PSU out of the B1G? Did Baylor get kicked out of the Big 12? Death Penality for something that happened 10 years ago and the proper have been punished? Punish the people who need to be punished, not the ones who are innocent.
As an estimate, I'd say if PSU really does end up losing federal aid and loan priveleges they're looking at losing 60-70% of their student body, if not more. The place will be a shell of its former self, regardless of what the NCAA does or doesn't decide to do.
Which is an old report, but I just saw it elsewhere. I believe I read that JoePa recommended Spanier for the job perhaps the acussations of a prostitution ring running out of the 2nd mile program have a little more weight to them.
PSU needs to suffer badly. I guess we need to define who PSU actually is. Is PSU the janitor who sweeps the hallways on a nightly basis? Is PSU the student who is working two jobs in order to pay for their education? Is PSU the research department hoping to find a cure for the latest form of cancer? PSU does not need to nor deserve to suffer for this. The people involved in this atrocity need to suffer. Those people need to be held accountable for their actions. Those people need to be called onto the floor, taken to court, and be held accountable for their actions. Because the AD or school president decided to "hide" Sandusky doesn't mean the student or faculity, or other student athletes need to suffer. If your boss is a pedophile does that mean you should lose your job?
In society we want everyone punished. The idea isn't to punish the innocent its to punish the ones who are guilty of a crime. Sandusky was a monster and the people who looked the other way are being held accountable in the court of law. But the student body who is there to get an education or the student athletes who are currently enrolled in those respective athletics are innocent of any wrong doing and shouldn't be punished.
I think it will be extraordinary if Penn State gets kicked out of the big ten or faces penalties/sanctions effecting funding etc so I don't know if any of that will actually happen (is there precedence for that?). But, the institution deserves penalty.
"This isnít stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
I think the only way that there are more severe penalties given to PSU is if the victime and/or their families speak out often and loudly about how PSU shouldn't get off with just a slap on the wrist to the football program.
The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day.
I think PSU needs to spend some time out of the big time sports school business and focus more on the institute of higher learning business. Really I think there are plenty of other schools that should do this too, but the administration's actions make a compelling argument for PSU being at the forefront in this trend.
Burn down the disco. Hang the blessed DJ. Because the music that he constantly plays, it says nothing to me about my life.
**Has graphic descriptions and NSFW language**
Conspiracy of Silence - Highest Quality Version
Last edited by ervinsm84; 07-03-2012 at 01:12 PM.
Joey Votto does not care about RBI.
NEITHER SHOULD ANY OF US
Apparently, they spoke in code in their emails about Sandusky. This certainly isn't getting any prettier.
The emails, dated February 26-28, 2001, show Spanier knew about the incident McQueary reported and said the university could be "vulnerable" for not reporting the incident, CNN reported.
"The only downside for us is if the message [to Sandusky] isn't 'heard' and acted upon, and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it," Spanier purportedly writes.
The alleged emails referred to Sandusky only as "the subject" and "the person." Children were called the "guests."
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.