Voting was conducted at the end of the regular season.
Voting was conducted at the end of the regular season.
Cards were dead in the water. Even before their playoff and WS wins, Larussa gets this.
Wainright out for the year as well. Definitely La Russa.
I'd give Gibby runner up.
It can't be anyone other than TLR.
I based mine on the fact (I believe) that voting occurred before the WS was played. I agree Gibson should be a strong contender, but I think LaRussa gets overlooked for just getting the Cards into the playoffs (with the 20/20 view of a WS win) and it goes to Roenicke who had the Brewers playing full tilt most (if not all) of the season.
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I give it to Gibby hands down, Roenicke as a runner up. LaRussa did a good job but I give alot of the credit for getting there to Mozeliak assuming it was his idea to sign Berkman/trade for Dotel, Rzepczynski and Jackson. Who thought Arizona would do what they did? And it's mostly because Gibson demanded better out of his guys.
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Why give it to the manager of a second-place team?
Man, it pains me to write this, but it has to be TLR. My heart says Gibson, but my mind is telling me TLR.
Gibson wins easy.Last to first is a no brainer if I was a voter.
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The same reason you can give the MVP to a player who doesn't go to the playoffs. Things aren't created equally. The managers all have different quality of players and can only do so much with what they have.Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling
Gibson.
Last to first is rare in baseball.
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As much as I would love for it to go to TLR, I have to give it to Gibson. What TLR did down the stretch was historic however Gibson was consistent all year long and taught that young team how to win. I kind of feel bad for the Diamondbacks because they seemed to always be on the back burner of MLB headlines. What happened there was truely remarkable. This is the one award where I wouldn't be disappointed with the outcome though.
I agree with this. I also don't think people should look at it in the context of "giving it to the second place team". Whether some like it or not, the Wild Card is now a staple in the MLB Playoffs. You have to judge a team by the rules baseball has set. If a team is fortunate enough to make the playoffs, they should be recognized for it, not looked down upon as just a "second place team".The same reason you can give the MVP to a player who doesn't go to the playoffs. Things aren't created equally. The managers all have different quality of players and can only do so much with what they have.
I think it cheapens the accomplishments of a hundred years' worth of truly great teams that won the World Championship to be lumped in the same category with teams that proved over the course of 162 games that they were not even good enough to win their own little division. It used to be that the World Series winner had a rock solid claim to being the best team in baseball that year, nowadays we have mediocre teams winning the Series on a regular basis. It used to be that only great teams earned the honor to be in the World Series, nowadays the strategy is to squeak into the playoffs somehow and hope for a miracle. It cheapens the accomplishment and the sport.
Which is more impressive: leading a team full of star players (including the best player of this generation) to a distant second-place finish; or leading a team full of no-name players that everyone picked to finish near the bottom of the league to a first place finish?
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