Reds Hot Stove Rumors (Discussion)

[mdccclxix]

I'm not really surprised the Reds haven't negotiated with Brandon since the winter meetings, and doubt anything happens with a extension for Brandon the rest of the offseason. I think Latos and Marshall will be a higher priority for the Reds to give extensions to, and extensions for those 2 really will use up the money that would have been earmarked for Brandon.

On the other hand a 5 million deferral in 2012 from Brandon to go along with an extension could help acquire the needed pieces in LF, UT and bullpen. Just a thought.

[mth123]

On the other hand a 5 million deferral in 2012 from Brandon to go along with an extension could help acquire the needed pieces in LF, UT and bullpen. Just a thought.

Or fund the signing bonus for an extension for Latos or Marshall.

[Marc D]

I saw on MLBTR a while back that there was talk of Atlanta dealing Martin Prado to Colorado for Seth Smith and a prospect named Tim Wheeler.

I'm not familiar with Wheeler, do the Reds have something similar they could send to Atlanta and is Prado still a viable target? I know he had a bad year last year but before that he was very good, plays 2B/3B/LF, has OBP skills and under control for a while.

Seems logical to me but maybe there is something wrong with him?

[Scrap Irony]

Nothing wrong with Prado other than the Braves undervaluing him.

He'd be a great target and a fine, fine #2 hole hitter.

But I doubt Cincinnati has the bullets to get him, though Heisey would interest Atlanta, IMO.

[sonny]

Nothing wrong with Prado other than the Braves undervaluing him.

He'd be a great target and a fine, fine #2 hole hitter.

But I doubt Cincinnati has the bullets to get him, though Heisey would interest Atlanta, IMO.

Heisey and Pile O'Cash?

[kaldaniels]

Prado....hmmm.

Not for the OF but what about putting him at 2b and trading BP? The net money saved and spent elsewhere could be a plus for the Reds.

[Scrap Irony]

Prado as an OF/IF utility guy would solve a lot of problems, IMO. He's a high obp guy normally who doesn't K all that much. I wouldn't deal him for Phillips, as Phillips has a ton of defensive value and is just about the same offensively at this point.

I would deal for him.

[Marc D]

Nothing wrong with Prado other than the Braves undervaluing him.

He'd be a great target and a fine, fine #2 hole hitter.

But I doubt Cincinnati has the bullets to get him, though Heisey would interest Atlanta, IMO.

Heisey and Pile O'Cash?

Heisey and Frazier for Prado?

Heisey, Frazier, Chapman to Atlanta for Prado and JJ?

I know both are going to get expensive the next 2 years, but if the Reds could afford it, it also assures them on the same team with Votto the next 2 years.

If there was a shred of truth to the rumor of Atlanta's interest in Adam Jones what could Stubbs bring?

[Vottomatic]

For me, it's kinda weird. I guess since Brandon is the longest tenured Red, there is a part of me that kinda hopes he is a lifetime Red.

On the other hand, I realize the Reds are small market and factoring in his age, they should probably trade him and get something for him now before he is an anchor on the team payroll.

It's really a tough decision for me.

[Vottomatic]

Double post. N/M

[TRF]

Why is everyone wringing hands over Cordero or Madsen?

Didn't the Reds JUST trade for Marshall? doesn't he clearly have CLOSER stuff? Do these same Reds not also have Arredondo, Bray and LeCure, three guys that can get K's in bunches?

Closer is not an issue, at least not to me.

LF, now that might finally be an issue. BP at leadoff and Heisey hitting second with Stubbs down around 7th. This interests me greatly.

If the Reds shell out for Cordero, I'll not be surprised. But i won't like it.

[dougdirt]

Why is everyone wringing hands over Cordero or Madsen?

Didn't the Reds JUST trade for Marshall? doesn't he clearly have CLOSER stuff? Do these same Reds not also have Arredondo, Bray and LeCure, three guys that can get K's in bunches?

Closer is not an issue, at least not to me.

LF, now that might finally be an issue. BP at leadoff and Heisey hitting second with Stubbs down around 7th. This interests me greatly.

If the Reds shell out for Cordero, I'll not be surprised. But i won't like it.

Because the Reds don't want to use Marshall as a closer and are clearly going for an established closer.

[Ron Madden]

Because the Reds don't want to use Marshall as a closer and are clearly going for an established closer.

I think you may be right but it doesn't make sense to me.

[dougdirt]

I think you may be right but it doesn't make sense to me.

I don't get it either.

[757690]

I think you may be right but it doesn't make sense to me.

I don't get it either.

I get it, but think it's silly and avoidable.

Because of the stupid save stat, teams now need two different pitchers at the end of games. One to get the tough outs in high leverage situations, and one to get the final three outs of a victory.

You're right that it doesn't make much sense, but as long as the save stat is defined as it is, and drives pitchers salaries the way it does, that is the way teams will build their bullpens.