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Thread: Reds Hot Stove Rumors (Discussion)

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    Re: Reds Hot Stove Rumors (Discussion)

    Having an experienced closer makes perfect sense. I think you all know the arguments in favor. Most MLB teams subscribe to the reasoning.

    More importantly, Sean Marshall is one pitcher. Teams want to have perhaps three very effective, late innings relievers. Even with Marshall, with Chapman becoming a starter, there is a clear need for additional very effective late innings relievers on the Reds. Whether a closer or not.

    So it's really not so baffling. I know, relievers are unimportant, it doesn't matter who you put out there, closing experience means nothing, all these arguments.

    But very few guys running baseball teams adopt them.

    So the Reds are looking for one more good late innings guy.

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    Back before there were "closers" teams won the same % of close games as they do now. There may be a mentality among today's pitchers that actually affects their performance fi they don't have a set role defined by a stat-driven game situation. But I have very little doubt it's a mentality of our own creation.

    I simply cannot believe that pitching ahead by 2 runs with the bases empty in the 9th is more stressful than pitching with the bases loaded in a tie game in the 7th.

    I can totally get behind the Reds adding another high quality arm for the bullpen. I just think the insistence of getting a "proven closer" at the expense of pitcher that is better at getting people out at is a dumb idea.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds Hot Stove Rumors (Discussion)

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Back before there were "closers" teams won the same % of close games as they do now. There may be a mentality among today's pitchers that actually affects their performance fi they don't have a set role defined by a stat-driven game situation. But I have very little doubt it's a mentality of our own creation.

    I simply cannot believe that pitching ahead by 2 runs with the bases empty in the 9th is more stressful than pitching with the bases loaded in a tie game in the 7th.

    I can totally get behind the Reds adding another high quality arm for the bullpen. I just think the insistence of getting a "proven closer" at the expense of pitcher that is better at getting people out at is a dumb idea.
    AGREED!


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