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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    About the ONLY thing about the Marlins I wish the Reds would look into is their farm system and player development. But this point, I'm not even sure THAT is superior to the Reds anymore.
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    How many rings does Loria have? And how many franchises has he trashed?
    no doubt, but i think he was owner in 2003.

    And it is possible he's put in place some people that can teach him. It just seems like this is the right direction for the Marlins.
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    "We're simply not going to lose anymore" - Bob Castellini when firing Wayne Krivsky
    Sometime between the 2010 and 2011 seasons that became "We're simply not going to lose MONEY anymore."

    Forget about the Reds going all-in on free agents. Last season showed that this ownership group isn't wired that way.
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    no doubt, but i think he was owner in 2003.

    And it is possible he's put in place some people that can teach him. It just seems like this is the right direction for the Marlins.
    John Henry was the owner.

    Loria drive the O' s price into the stratosphere, killed the Expos and persides over a franchise that is universally thought of as a joke.

    Don't see it at all

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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    TRF you were right Loria got the control of the Marlins in 2002, I was incorrect, still don't see him as a guy to envy though

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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    the only reason i remembered that was I think Loria designed their WS rings.

    And I didn't say envy per se, but this is a plan the Reds should have followed when GABP opened, with a slant towards pitching.

    If they get Reyes, that is a more than solid offense. Bonafacio and Reyes make a very good 1-2 punch at the top of the order. Then Hanley, Stanton, Sanchez. The rotation I think gets maybe a little better. Vasquez retires, but a full year of Johnson. They need another starter. If they get one, they can make a run.
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    They haven't? They've gotten me excited about Marlins baseball.
    Talk to some former Montreal Expo fans about Jeff Loria and David Samson. See what they have to say.
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    Sometime between the 2010 and 2011 seasons that became "We're simply not going to lose MONEY anymore."

    Forget about the Reds going all-in on free agents. Last season showed that this ownership group isn't wired that way.
    Well said.

    I definitely think Castellini may have realized he's in over his head from the money side of it.

    And he probably expected more of a spike in attendance than he got this year.

    But should he have? One good season and he expects the fans to return in droves?

    They sat on their hands last offseason and appear to be ready to do so again this offseason. If they do, I see attendance dropping off because of the turn off.

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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    Talk to some former Montreal Expo fans about Jeff Loria and David Samson. See what they have to say.

    No kidding
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    Talk to some former Montreal Expo fans about Jeff Loria and David Samson. See what they have to say.
    The strike did just as much damage.
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Thank you Marlins for at least showing signs of driving up the price on Pujols.
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    It must be fun to be a Marlins fan right now, they can dream big. The lineup construction would be fun.

    Reyes
    Ramirez
    Pujols
    Stanton
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    Thank you Marlins for at least showing signs of driving up the price on Pujols.
    This.

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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Completely different situation. I'm as frustrated as anyone, but the Marlins are literally projected to add another $20-30 million to their revenue on account of getting out of the awful stadium lease they were in and into a new ballpark. That's the reason why they're now making a splash in free agency.
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    Re: Reds; Take Note From The Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Completely different situation. I'm as frustrated as anyone, but the Marlins are literally projected to add another $20-30 million to their revenue on account of getting out of the awful stadium lease they were in and into a new ballpark. That's the reason why they're now making a splash in free agency.
    Don't forget as for the players.. think of the savings they encounter without having to pay taxes on that money.. example: LeBron James and Chris Bosh w/ the Miami Heat


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