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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    This system has 15 very intriguing prospects...
    "On-base percentage is great if you can score runs and do something with that on-base percentage," Baker said. "Clogging up the bases isn't that great to me."

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Could we add Tucker Barnhart in the next round or two? Thanks.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Phipps should be on the list, IMO.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    18 years old

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    Second base

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    18 years old

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    That is all
    It's a long way, to the top, if you want to rock n roll.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    18 years old

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    I love Torreyes and am very excited about him as the next generation's solution at 2B. He seems to be able to hit and the reports on his defense are superlative. The knock I'm still not past is the size issue. There is still an unanswered question about his ability to hold up over the 162 game grind. So far we've only seen him for a limited schedule. I have Mesoraco, Cozart and Alonso in my top three. The next group is Sappelt, Grandal and Torreyes. I have Torreyes behind the other two simply due to this one issue. If he can play a full season in 2012 without expereincing a severe drop off at the plate and/or on defense from being worn down (see Janish, Paul), I'll probably have him at number 1 in 2013.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    Phipps should be on the list, IMO.
    I'll second this. I don't have for a few more rounds but I do have him before a number of people on the list.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    I know I said I wouldn't lobby any more for Torreyes, but I just read this quote from Whitey Herzog's autobiography (White Rat) that I found interesting:

    "A ballplayer who is fast is never too small. When you've got a player who is fast and who can swing the bat, too, you've got someone special."

    That said, I don't know how fast Torreyes really is. Obviously, he's not in Hamilton's class, but is he closer to Stubbs or Phillips? There's a significant difference. My guess is that he runs about like Sappelt, but more advisedly.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    I know I said I wouldn't lobby any more for Torreyes, but I just read this quote from Whitey Herzog's autobiography (White Rat) that I found interesting:

    "A ballplayer who is fast is never too small. When you've got a player who is fast and who can swing the bat, too, you've got someone special."

    That said, I don't know how fast Torreyes really is. Obviously, he's not in Hamilton's class, but is he closer to Stubbs or Phillips? There's a significant difference. My guess is that he runs about like Sappelt, but more advisedly.
    Torreyes is fast-ish, but he isn't close to Stubbs speed.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Didn't have YRod in my top 10. If you base it on "potential alone," he's probably #1, but I haven't been impressed with his results or attitude the las couple of years. Yes, he still very young, there have been injuries and reported personal issues, but still, this is a "show me" year for him, IMO.

    Not giving up on Yorman by any means, but I wantd to see some signs of more decdication a breakout this year. If the right deal came and he could hekp make it happen, I wouldn't hesitate to deal him either (something I would not have been so quick to say the last year or two).

    I was torn between Torreyes and Sappelt for the 10th spot, but went with Torreys. I had Sappelt 11th and YRod 12th.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Didn't have YRod in my top 10. If you base it on "potential alone," he's probably #1, but I haven't been impressed with his results or attitude the las couple of years. Yes, he still very young, there have been injuries and reported personal issues, but still, this is a "show me" year for him, IMO.

    Not giving up on Yorman by any means, but I wantd to see some signs of more decdication a breakout this year. If the right deal came and he could hekp make it happen, I wouldn't hesitate to deal him either (something I would not have been so quick to say the last year or two).

    I was torn between Torreyes and Sappelt for the 10th spot, but went with Torreys. I had Sappelt 11th and YRod 12th.
    19 is a "show me year"?

    Does that mean that Billy Hamilton is a bust? He was 20 and had a worse slash line than Yorman did.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    All this talk about Yorman's attitude and personal issues....didn't he have to deal with the deaths of 2 relatives or friends this past year? Or am I thinking of someone else? Because for a kid that age, in a foreign country without family as support...I can easily see dealing with 2 deaths as justifiable reason to see him fall backwards in terms of development and especially attitude.

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    Rodriguez, batting .254 with 7 home runs, 40 RBIs and 20 stolen bases in 79 games, also dealt with death this summer when his grandmother and a close friend passed on the same day. On a festive personal note, Rodriguez turns 19 on Monday.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    All this talk about Yorman's attitude and personal issues....didn't he have to deal with the deaths of 2 relatives or friends this past year? Or am I thinking of someone else? Because for a kid that age, in a foreign country without family as support...I can easily see dealing with 2 deaths as justifiable reason to see him fall backwards in terms of development and especially attitude.

    Yep, it was him. I found the story.
    And he found out he was gong to be a father before the season began.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #11 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    It's a long way, to the top, if you want to rock n roll.
    That's what they say, but Angus and Malcolm had a big-time rocker brother to help them get their start.

    And I really wish I could make that relevant somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tixe View Post
    That's what they say, but Angus and Malcolm had a big-time rocker brother to help them get their start.

    And I really wish I could make that relevant somehow.
    I am hoping the Reds #11 prospect isn't just some Flash in the Pan.
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