It doesn't matter what the Bengals do, because of the 1990s, some people will never give them credit. Ever. Even when it's well deserved.
It doesn't matter what the Bengals do, because of the 1990s, some people will never give them credit. Ever. Even when it's well deserved.
It's true. People refuse to believe anything but what they want to. What I said earlier about Mike Brown not understanding how to win is just as rationale just as logical an argument when presented with the facts as him not wanting to win. I'm not convinced of either side of the argument honestly but because I find no facts that support the "doesn't want to win, just wants to make money" argument, lame decade old rumors aside. I have to believe it's more about his lack of knowledge but coupled with a foolish, extremely stubborn notion that he does know what he is doing. We have seen some of his stubbornness slowly peel away. We have seen an improvement in the quality of players and personnel since Marvin has gotten here and even again since the '05 squad fell apart due to baggage. And alot of why we have gotten better is because people who like Dom says shouldn't be a part of the organization like Katie who has done a fair job of finding a reasonably competent head coach who has directed and fought against Mike Brown to direct us to the right players and such.
I have a lot of respect for the opinions of many here including Dom and I fully get what they are saying and why they are saying it but I think they are dead wrong about who the Bengals are and where they are heading as far as I'm concerned.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one."
--Woody Hayes
Just in case anyone missed this. Simply incredible. That's an ESPY nominee.
Jerome Simpson Front Flip Touchdown - YouTube
The schedule thing is way overblown by a lot of people. I haven't found an exact up-to-date ranking, but from what I've read in articles written a couple of weeks ago, the Bengals are going to end up with somewhere around the 16th-20th most difficult adjusted strength of schedule. So basically league average or slightly below league average.
Dom, your response is very surprising. You are typically very good at arguing logically, but this response totally skirted my comment.
You asserted that "Mike Brown is an attorney, therefore he should not be 'running' an NFL franchise because attorneys cannot run businesses." Are you saying that lawyers will hire family members, therefore they cannot effectively run an NFL franchise?
While your points may be valid about Mike Brown, you did not respond to "lawyers cannot effectively run an NFL franchise." I'm just trying to figure out why his professional credentials are an argument for why he is not a good football man.
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
And the good news continues. According to Bengals.com posters who called today to order season tickets for 2012, phone lines are again jammed with buyers.
I don't know what's gotten into Mike Brown, but I'll gladly take it. From the recent great drafts to the Jay Gruden hire to the Palmer trade steal from Oakland to the BOGO offer to the reduced prices for 2012 ... he's on a bit of a roll right now.
Feel free, but keep in mind that I am not questioning the assertion that "Mike Brown is not a good football man" but that "attorneys can not be good football men." In other words, the only objection I raised had to do with the correlation between Mike Brown being an attorney and his inability to be a good football man.
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"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
The Steelers are almost certainly better than New England. You're really sleeping on how bad New England's defense has been. Their offensive line has also been a mess. I think either Baltimore or Pittsburgh will bounce New England without much difficulty, but I do think the Bengals would have a shot. They only have one bad loss all year. I mean my god they're starting a rookie QB drafted in the second round and they're 9-6 and have only been blown out once. That's incredible. Any other franchise would be receiving huge accolades from the media and from fans (and to be fair I think the media has come around much more since they got that 9th win.)
They've had troubles closing teams out, but if it wasn't the Bengals I don't think anyone would find that surprising with them being one of the youngest teams in the NFL.
We will see this Sunday. I really have a good feeling. Baltimore has struggled on the road and the Bengals are healthier than last time, I think they're going to get in.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
I thought I heard/saw that as of today both #1 seeds had the two worst defenses in yards allowed in the NFL. Of course if NE loses this Sunday they may lose that #1 seed. All the same...they are the #1 seed in the AFC right now. Surely that counts for something. If they keep that #1 seed that means Pittsburgh or Baltimore will have to play in Foxboro. I'll bet any amount of money that Baltimore will not win at NE (see Baltimore's road record/stats this year).
NE's offense (despite their mess of an O-line) has outscored the next closest AFC team by 105 points! The team has won 7 games in a row! I root against them every game they play, but they are pretty good.
This Sunday the Bengals put the 90's to bed. I'm pumped up and ready to watch the battle!
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
Their defense is a mess. They're secondary is atrocious. The line can't get any pressure. The linebackers as a group are average at best. And teams that can get pressure on the QB can slow that offense down. It's a great offense because of Brady, but they have no deep threat, no outside threat to worry about. They're very beatable. I'm not saying the Bengals would beat them, I don't think they would. But they'd have a shot.
And are we forgetting that Baltimore went into NE not too long ago and completely obliterated them? I wouldn't rule the Ravens out.
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