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    Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

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    #reds gm walt jocketty said he will NOT trade joey votto this winter. Said instead will try to sign within the next year

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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    That would be a great signal - if they can get it done - that the team is willing to develop and then keep true top players.

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    They can try it all they want. I just don't think they have the cash to make it happen, nor do I think Votto really wants to sign a deal before testing the market. But I get why they have to say that.

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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    There will be NO END to Votto rumors until he signs (if) a new contract.

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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    Agree with the 2 above, nothing to see here folks.

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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by RBA View Post
    There will be NO END to Votto rumors until he signs (if) a new contract.
    I dunno. If he almost signs, I might believe the rumors have ended.
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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    Within the next year?

    That doesn't imply any urgency. It's practically a throwaway statement. To me, it implies a half-hearted effort to sign, followed by a shrug as they let him walk. To Votto, this milquetoast statement might just be worse than saying nothing.
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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    They can try it all they want. I just don't think they have the cash to make it happen, nor do I think Votto really wants to sign a deal before testing the market. But I get why they have to say that.
    Agree. I can't see how/why Votto would sign without going into the market.

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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    I don't think there's a number any near the realm of possibility that results in an extension. Votto wants control over his future.
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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    If this team wants to sign anyone they are going to prove they can win and are dedicated to winning on a consistent basis. One year of winning in 15 years doesn't count.
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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    One does wonder if Votto wants to put himself through the scrutiny and constant questions as long as he's not signed long term. I bet that process will grate on him. And it will only get worse in season as deadlines approach if the Reds aren't in the thick of it.

    Just saying, Votto has a reason to not test the market. Look at Albert throughout the post season this year. He was getting dogged with the questioning... and his team was winning.
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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by I(heart)Freel View Post
    One does wonder if Votto wants to put himself through the scrutiny and constant questions as long as he's not signed long term. I bet that process will grate on him. And it will only get worse in season as deadlines approach if the Reds aren't in the thick of it.

    Just saying, Votto has a reason to not test the market. Look at Albert throughout the post season this year. He was getting dogged with the questioning... and his team was winning.
    Votto also has about 140M reasons to test the market.

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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Votto also has about 140M reasons to test the market.
    Thats about the number the Reds will have to come up with - or even more if he keeps mashing like he has. That's why I said IF they can get it done it would be a great sign - also - if they then added a cast around him. I could see signing Votto and then cheap-skating it around him which would be just as bad as not signing him.

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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    Do you think Votto will give the Reds a home discount

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    Re: Jocketty puts a end to Votto rumors; extension possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    They can try it all they want. I just don't think they have the cash to make it happen, nor do I think Votto really wants to sign a deal before testing the market. But I get why they have to say that.
    Joey knows that baseball is not just a game but also a business.

    I believe he will test the market and sign with the highest bidder.

    It's silly to believe Votto would give Cincinnati or Toronto a home town discount, He lives in Florida.

    Joey knows that going on the open market is his best chance to strike it rich.

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