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    Baseball America Top 10 List

    1. Devin Mesoraco, c
    2. Billy Hamilton, ss
    3. Yonder Alonso, 1b/of
    4. Yasmani Grandal, c
    5. Zack Cozart, ss
    6. Daniel Corcino, rhp
    7. Robert Stephenson, rhp
    8. DiDi Gregorius, ss
    9. Todd Frazier, 3b/1b/of
    10. Brad Boxberger, rhp


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    Re: Baseball America Top 10 List

    No Yorman or Soto but they do include Gregorius. Interesting.

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    Re: Baseball America Top 10 List

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    No Yorman or Soto but they do include Gregorius. Interesting.
    Gregorius hasn't gotten a single vote yet for any of the rounds so far here on Redszone.

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    Re: Baseball America Top 10 List

    Quote Originally Posted by redsof72 View Post
    1. Devin Mesoraco, c
    2. Billy Hamilton, ss
    3. Yonder Alonso, 1b/of
    4. Yasmani Grandal, c
    5. Zack Cozart, ss
    6. Daniel Corcino, rhp
    7. Robert Stephenson, rhp
    8. DiDi Gregorius, ss
    9. Todd Frazier, 3b/1b/of
    10. Brad Boxberger, rhp
    Compare to Redszone Top 10- so you don't need to flip back and forth

    #1 C Devin Mesoraco
    #2 1B/OF Yonder Alonso
    #3 C Yasmani Grandal
    #4 SS Billy Hamilton
    #5 SS Zack Cozart
    #6 RHP Dan Corcino
    #7 RHP Robert Stephenson
    #8 RHP Brad Boxberger
    #9 1B Neftali Soto
    #10 OF Yorman Rodriguez

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    Re: Baseball America Top 10 List

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Gregorius hasn't gotten a single vote yet for any of the rounds so far here on Redszone.
    Yeah, I know. I don't get that. Why would they have him so high?

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    I can see the Gregorius thing. He's young, he's fast, he has a good track record of hitting, and he supposedly plays a legitimate shortstop. I suspect that his position had a lot to do with it; and understandably so.

    Actually, I'm more surprised by Corcino and Stephenson. I know it's consistent with where we had them, but I thought that our results were a little skewed along those lines. Apparently not.

    I still think that, sooner or later--probably sooner--Torreyes is going to turn these rankings on their ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    I can see the Gregorius thing. He's young, he's fast, he has a good track record of hitting, and he supposedly plays a legitimate shortstop. I suspect that his position had a lot to do with it; and understandably so.

    Actually, I'm more surprised by Corcino and Stephenson. I know it's consistent with where we had them, but I thought that our results were a little skewed along those lines. Apparently not.

    I still think that, sooner or later--probably sooner--Torreyes is going to turn these rankings on their ear.
    Last time he had a good obp was in '09 when he was in rookie ball.

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    Re: Baseball America Top 10 List

    Best Hitter for Average: Yonder Alonso

    Best Power Hitter: Neftali Soto

    Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Yonder Alonso

    Fastest Baserunner: Billy Hamilton

    Best Athlete: Billy Hamilton

    Best Fastball: Daniel Corcino

    Best Curveball: J.C. Sulbaran

    Best Slider: Tim Crabbe

    Best Changeup: Daniel Renken

    Best Control: Justice French

    Best Defensive Catcher: Tucker Barnhart

    Best Defensive Infielder: Didi Gregorius

    Best Infield Arm: Didi Gregorius

    Best Defensive Outfielder: Ryan LaMarre

    Best Outfield Arm: Yorman Rodriguez

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    Re: Baseball America Top 10 List

    Quote Originally Posted by Baseball View Post
    Best Hitter for Average: Yonder Alonso

    Best Power Hitter: Neftali Soto

    Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Yonder Alonso

    Fastest Baserunner: Billy Hamilton

    Best Athlete: Billy Hamilton

    Best Fastball: Daniel Corcino

    Best Curveball: J.C. Sulbaran

    Best Slider: Tim Crabbe

    Best Changeup: Daniel Renken

    Best Control: Justice French

    Best Defensive Catcher: Tucker Barnhart

    Best Defensive Infielder: Didi Gregorius

    Best Infield Arm: Didi Gregorius

    Best Defensive Outfielder: Ryan LaMarre

    Best Outfield Arm: Yorman Rodriguez

    #1 prospect Mesoraco nowhere to found.

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    Re: Baseball America Top 10 List

    Surprised to see Gregorius ahead of Soto, Torreyes, and Boxberger. Also somewhat surprised to see Hamilton ahead of Alonso, especially after what Alonso showed in Cincinnati at the end of last season.

    Two things they clearly put a premium are are pedigree and premium position (SS).
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    Last time he had a good obp was in '09 when he was in rookie ball.
    Yeah, if all you do is scroll down the OBP column, I can see that. But he did OPS .753 this year as a 21-year-old in High-A and AA. He's never batted below .272 over a season (since an abbreviated first year in '08). Not bad for a young shortstop. From what's been written on these boards over the recent years, it seems like he's always been considered a pretty good offensive player.

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    I do not have any big issues with the top 10 list but the best tools is skewed. There is no one in the organization that would tell you that Yorman has a better arm than Jefry Sierra. Gregorius as the best defensive infielder? Huh? He is an athletic player with a great arm but he had 21 errors in 80 games after making 31 in 2010. You have two defensive wizards in Cozart and Rojas. Sierra or Phipps would be the debate for best defensive outfielder. LaMarre would not even be in the conversation.

    All in all, they put a ton of work into this stuff and are to be commended. It is not an easy job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Gregorius hasn't gotten a single vote yet for any of the rounds so far here on Redszone.
    He is my #12 prospect, and I could have easily put him at #11 without much of an after thought to it. He is the best athlete in the system aside from Billy Hamilton, makes a ton of contact, has some pop when he stays back on the ball (he completely changes his stance and approach when he reaches two strikes, so his power numbers don't always tell us what his power actually is), is a better defensive player potentially than anyone in the system who can hit their way out of a wet paper bag (Miguel Rojas) and has plus speed.

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    Re: Baseball America Top 10 List

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    He is my #12 prospect, and I could have easily put him at #11 without much of an after thought to it. He is the best athlete in the system aside from Billy Hamilton, makes a ton of contact, has some pop when he stays back on the ball (he completely changes his stance and approach when he reaches two strikes, so his power numbers don't always tell us what his power actually is), is a better defensive player potentially than anyone in the system who can hit their way out of a wet paper bag (Miguel Rojas) and has plus speed.
    Can you do a comparison of Henry Rodriguez vs. Didi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Can you do a comparison of Henry Rodriguez vs. Didi?
    Henry is a better hitter. More current power, though I don't think he has the edge in raw power. Didi is by far the better defender, better arm, better speed.


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