Ramon Hernandez Arbitration

[dougdirt]

Am I right that this coming Wednesday night, the 23rd, is the deadline to offer arbitration to Ramon and Coco? That is how I read the calendar.

At midnight, assuming the mlbtradeumors.com countdown is correct.

[membengal]

It would be absolute lunacy to offer him arbitration.

[cinreds21]

So am I reading this correctly that with the new CBA, the Reds do not have to offer arbitration to Hernandez or Cordero and will still receive compensation from the Type-B free agents?

[_Sir_Charles_]

So am I reading this correctly that with the new CBA, the Reds do not have to offer arbitration to Hernandez or Cordero and will still receive compensation from the Type-B free agents?

Correct. The odds of us offering arbitration has now dropped to zero. It won't get offered. Period.

[Kc61]

Correct. The odds of us offering arbitration has now dropped to zero. It won't get offered. Period.

I agree. Particularly if the Reds don't want these two. Clearly no reason to offer arbitration.

But what if the Reds still want to negotiate with Cordero or Hernandez?

It would seem that the Reds can continue to negotiate with them, even without offering arbitration. Is that correct?

[Mario-Rijo]

It would be absolute lunacy to offer him arbitration.

I disagree I mean what is the downside to offering Ramon, in their eyes? I think they will take the stance that it wouldn't hurt to have Ramon back for one more season and perhaps if Mes forces their hand trade Ramon at midseason if they aren't in it. I guess money might be the one factor that would keep them from re-signing him but they don't seem to mind paying certain guys and he falls into that category.

[Gallen5862]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Free Agent Arbitration Offer Tracker
By Tim Dierkes [November 23 at 12:46pm CST]

Please note that in the tracker I have marked Matt Capps, Francisco Cordero, Octavio Dotel, Ramon Hernandez, and Darren Oliver as having received arbitration offers even though they technically will not. As part of the new CBA, MLB and the players association agreed that these five players will change from Type A to B and the clubs will not have to offer arbitration to receive compensation. For the purposes of the tracker, I consider that an automatic arbitration offer, since compensation will still happen.

[membengal]

I disagree I mean what is the downside to offering Ramon, in their eyes? I think they will take the stance that it wouldn't hurt to have Ramon back for one more season and perhaps if Mes forces their hand trade Ramon at midseason if they aren't in it. I guess money might be the one factor that would keep them from re-signing him but they don't seem to mind paying certain guys and he falls into that category.

Mes should have already forced their hand. There is zero reason for a budget strapped club to send Mes back to AAA yet again so they can light bundles of money on fire.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I agree. Particularly if the Reds don't want these two. Clearly no reason to offer arbitration.

But what if the Reds still want to negotiate with Cordero or Hernandez?

It would seem that the Reds can continue to negotiate with them, even without offering arbitration. Is that correct?

Bingo. I don't think they're interested in Ramon to be honest, just the picks (which is why I thought they'd at least offer arbitration before the change to their status). But Cordero...I'd be surprised if they don't try to sign him to a lesser contract of a year or two.

[_Sir_Charles_]

I agree. Particularly if the Reds don't want these two. Clearly no reason to offer arbitration.

But what if the Reds still want to negotiate with Cordero or Hernandez?

It would seem that the Reds can continue to negotiate with them, even without offering arbitration. Is that correct?

Bingo. I don't think they're interested in Ramon to be honest, just the picks. But Cordero...I'd be surprised if they don't try to sign him to a lesser contract of a year or two.

[Ron Madden]

I'd say: Thank you Francisco Cordero and Ramon Hernandez we've enjoyed a few good times together but it's time to move on. We have made both of you guys very rich men and wish both of you continued professional and financial success. See Ya Later.