"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Where does it say you have to win your conference to play for the title? If that is your opinion fine, but to say it "ends the discussion" is just your opinion. Others may not agree. And FWIW I think OSU should get their shot. But that decision was reached by on field events, not the conference standings.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Watching them play LSU tells me that they are the better team. No one else has come closer to even being in a game for four quarters with LSU. Alabama should have won that game. They didn't, and I get that, but they were the better team on the field that day. Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State. That is what tells me that Alabama is the better team.
Like others, I just want consistency. Many of the loudest screamers of "they didn't even win their conference" and "they didn't beat anybody" are the sames one now screaming it has to be Alabama. It's so freaking ridiculous, it's tough to even listen to.
Some people think the SEC is exempt from any discussion around who they actually beat. Heck, I bought into the hype myself even, but now that I've actually gone a looked, Alabama hasn't really beat anyone of consequence this other than Arkansas. And if there's a team deserving of the most over-hyped team this year it's Arkansas. They have beaten no one of any quality. They got demolished by the only two really good teams they played. So how can they be SO good if they can't even be competitive with top tier teams.
Alabama beat 3 teams this year with a winning record. 3 teams!!! But they are exempt from schedule scrutiny like everyone else due to the SEC exception. This is such BS. It's like Reily said, the SEC fanbase thinks they invented football and no one else can play. It's impossible to even have an intelligent dialogue with these people. Heck, why not just make the SEC championship game the national championship game and forget about the BCS.
The "who'd they beat" argument has been used mercilessly here and everywhere else usually coming from the very people who have conveniently forgotten about it now. The hypocrisy is ridiculous and not even subtle. All most of us want is consistency. You can't have one set of rules for everyone else, and a different one for the anointed SEC.
Grape works as a soda. Sort of as a gum. I wonder why it doesn't work as a pie. Grape pie? There's no grape pie. - Larry David
The part that I disagree here is the "clearly" part. "Maybe"? Sure. But there is considerable room for doubt.
OSU beat the #8, #10, and #22 teams in the nation.
Alabama beat the #12, #14, #23, #24 teams.
Bama lost at home to the #1 team by 3. OSU lost in a 2 OT game the day after a tragic coaching loss.
Maybe I'd give a slight edge to Alabama. Maybe. But its pretty darn near a toss-up.
In my mind, the tie-breaker is the "you had your shot and you lost" argument. Yeah, you can say a FG was wide or a receiver tripped or whatever. But at the end of the day, you *lost*. Why do you get another shot when there is a team that is very possibly equal to you?
BCS will say the system worked this time but I'll disagree.
She used to wake me up with coffee ever morning
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