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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    I guess making the playoffs is a difference maker in MVP voting...

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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I guess making the playoffs is a difference maker in MVP voting...
    Historically, more often than not, it has been.
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    I know that, but it's a strange way to vote for a player.

    Kemp became the seventh player in Major League history to finish the season ranked in the top three in homers, batting average, RBIs and stolen bases in their respective league, joining Hall of Famers Ty Cobb (1907, 1909-11), Honus Wagner ('08), George Sisler ('20), Chuck Klein ('32), Willie Mays ('55) and Hank Aaron ('63).

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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Should have been Kemp.
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    The NL Central owns this award.
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    The NL Central owns this award.
    That's what I was thinking, too. Between Votto, Braun, and of course Albert, the NL Central has been stockpiling the MVP.
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Anyone notice that Votto got 6th? Not too shabby as a follow up to 2010, eh?
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I know that, but it's a strange way to vote for a player.

    Kemp became the seventh player in Major League history to finish the season ranked in the top three in homers, batting average, RBIs and stolen bases in their respective league, joining Hall of Famers Ty Cobb (1907, 1909-11), Honus Wagner ('08), George Sisler ('20), Chuck Klein ('32), Willie Mays ('55) and Hank Aaron ('63).
    Ironically, of the three other players you listed, whose seasons came after the present MVP award was established in 1931, only Chuck Klein won the MVP, and in 1932 Mel Ott arguably had the better season. In 1955 Roy Campanella ultimately was given the award in a confused vote where one writer named Campanella twice on his ballot; had the ballot been thrown out (as it should have been), then Duke Snider would have been the 1955 NL MVP. In 1963, Sandy Koufax was (properly in my view) named the NL MVP.
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I know that, but it's a strange way to vote for a player.

    Kemp became the seventh player in Major League history to finish the season ranked in the top three in homers, batting average, RBIs and stolen bases in their respective league, joining Hall of Famers Ty Cobb (1907, 1909-11), Honus Wagner ('08), George Sisler ('20), Chuck Klein ('32), Willie Mays ('55) and Hank Aaron ('63).
    I completely agree. It's not Kemp's fault the Dodgers are a mess and can't build a better team around him and Kershaw.
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I completely agree. It's not Kemp's fault the Dodgers are a mess and can't build a better team around him and Kershaw.
    Not to mention...Kemp plays a tougher defensive position than Braun does too.

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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Braun should have won. Good job. American League, not so much.
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Kemp should have won.

    Plaschke wrote a good article about that:

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...ge=1&track=rss

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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    This is kinda unrelated but according to baseball reference Braun had a .994 ops and a 166 ops+ while Kemp had a .986 ops and 171 ops+. I'm just wondering how that works.
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    Re: Ryan Braun wins NL MVP Award

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    This is kinda unrelated but according to baseball reference Braun had a .994 ops and a 166 ops+ while Kemp had a .986 ops and 171 ops+. I'm just wondering how that works.
    Ballparks they played in. A .986 OPS in LA and the NL West is a little more impressive than .994 in Milwaukee and the NL Central.
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