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    Really Good Pete Rose Article

    From Yahoo Sports page David Brown does a really good Q&A plus with Pete. I don't see this posted elsewhere. If I'm missing seeing it please delete.

    Can it really be 25 years since Pete Rose retired as a Major League Baseball player? The man called "Charlie Hustle" collected 4,256 career base hits for the Cincinnati Reds, Philadelphia Phillies and Montreal Expos, more than any other player in history.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big...rn=mlb-wp27466

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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    Understanding that Rose is 70 and has never really been known for his social graces, I laughed out loud as I cringed by this exchange!

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    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    I think it was a great story. I have never met Pete but hope to some
    Day. Pete Jr lives up the road from me in the next subdivision. Who knows maybe I will run into him soon.
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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    I loved Pete the player and Pete the manager as much as anyone else, and I also enjoyed most of this article. However, I feel as if I must play the role of Buzz Killington by disputing what I perceive to be some glaring inconsistencies.

    Pete says he hasn't bet on baseball since 1987. Although I have no concrete proof that he is lying, I disagree completely with that statement. As a compulsive gambler, he is/was an addict, just the same as someone who is compulsively addicted to alcohol or drugs. I seriously doubt that he suddenly stopped. And I seriously doubt that he no longer feels the compulsive urge.

    He says he never bet on baseball as a player. Again, I disagree completely. John Erardi states in the introduction to his book Wire To Wire that he heard from Pete's own mother that Pete "lost a bundle" on the 1984 World Series (while he was still an active player). These two statements cannot both be true at the same time. Regarding Erardi and Rose, which one of these gentlemen has more credibility? The respected journalist, or the compulsive liar/gambling addict?

    He says he doesn't go to casinos And when he goes to baseball games, he pays for his ticket? I seriously doubt both of these statements also.

    And at the end of the article, he becomes a Paterno supporter? Yikes.............
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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Hap View Post
    I loved Pete the player and Pete the manager as much as anyone else, and I also enjoyed most of this article. However, I feel as if I must play the role of Buzz Killington by disputing what I perceive to be some glaring inconsistencies.
    In a Pete Rose story????

    Pete says he hasn't bet on baseball since 1987. Although I have no concrete proof that he is lying, I disagree completely with that statement. As a compulsive gambler, he is/was an addict, just the same as someone who is compulsively addicted to alcohol or drugs. I seriously doubt that he suddenly stopped. And I seriously doubt that he no longer feels the compulsive urge.
    No concrete proof? Any Proof?

    I'll share a story.

    My dad smoked from the time he was 14 years old. At the age of 68 he went to the docotr and the doctor said, "Jim, we need to get that spot tested on your gums...spot tested, not cancer but my dad stopped smoking that day. He is 84.

    It is rare but it can happen when people can simply walk away from things...Hopefully Pete is one of them.



    He says he never bet on baseball as a player. Again, I disagree completely. John Erardi states in the introduction to his book Wire To Wire that he heard from Pete's own mother that Pete "lost a bundle" on the 1984 World Series (while he was still an active player). These two statements cannot both be true at the same time. Regarding Erardi and Rose, which one of these gentlemen has more credibility? The respected journalist, or the compulsive liar/gambling addict?
    Agreed.

    He says he doesn't go to casinos And when he goes to baseball games, he pays for his ticket? I seriously doubt both of these statements also.
    Why? Pete wasn't one to go to casino's before and he "according to the rules of his banishment" has to buy his own ticket...maybe he does, maybe someone buys him a ticket, maybe it is a staffer? I don't know either but I do know it isn't paid for by the commissioners office nor is it paid for using MLB funds.

    And at the end of the article, he becomes a Paterno supporter? Yikes.............
    Agreed...YIKES!

    Also, he like O'whatshisname

    For the record, I do not think Pete should be allowed back in MLB at any level and I think his induction to the HOF should only come after his passing.

    that's just me.
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    Someday someone from Cincinnati will sign an autograph, "I'm sorry I bet on Pete Rose."

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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    One of the best interviews with Pete that I've read!
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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    Pete always has given a good interview.

    He always says something interesting.
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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    My dad got to enjoy 3 Reds World Championships by the time he was my age. So far, I've only gotten to enjoy one. Step it up Redlegs!

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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    Never let him in. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Never let him in. Ever.
    Agreed.
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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    Understanding that Rose is 70 and has never really been known for his social graces, I laughed out loud as I cringed by this exchange!
    no matter your age it IS amazing that the best golfer in the world is a black man(despite what the most recent rankings might tell you)....and the eminem thing? I dunno about the best but he's no Vanilla Ice!

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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Never let him in. Ever.
    I couldn't disagree more. A 22 year ban is enough punishment. I am just shocked by this sentiment. After all, we have Mark McGuire back in the game, coaching the Cards. We have had cocaine users, juicers, drunks, racists, criminals, drunk drivers, and other gamblers (like Ty Cobb) continue in baseball with barely a peep.

    Let Pete have his eligibilty for the Hall, and keep him out of baseball if that's what we have to do as a compromise. Let him have a fair shot at the votes needed to get in.

    Pete Rose is a liar, a compulsive gambler, and yet the most competitive (and in many ways the best) baseball player I have ever seen. I won't go back to the HOF till they let him in.
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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    I couldn't disagree more. A 22 year ban is enough punishment. I am just shocked by this sentiment. After all, we have Mark McGuire back in the game, coaching the Cards. We have had cocaine users, juicers, drunks, racists, criminals, drunk drivers, and other gamblers (like Ty Cobb) continue in baseball with barely a peep.

    Let Pete have his eligibilty for the Hall, and keep him out of baseball if that's what we have to do as a compromise. Let him have a fair shot at the votes needed to get in.

    Pete Rose is a liar, a compulsive gambler, and yet the most competitive (and in many ways the best) baseball player I have ever seen. I won't go back to the HOF till they let him in.
    What is the only rule written on the wall in every locker room in baseball?

    If someone is stupid enough to go ahead and break the only rule that baseball cares enough about to plaster it in plain view in every locker room, then you get what you deserve. What Mark McGwire did is in no way comparable to what Pete Rose did. At all. And for the record, Pete is a criminal as well. So now he has a double whammy.

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    Re: Really Good Pete Rose Article

    I've gone back and forth on this over the years. I've spent the last decade or so (however long it's been since his "confession") being angry and not wanting to hear his name again. I've gone back now to remembering who he was when I was young. He was always rough around the edges, and he did something unacceptable, yet I guess in the end he is who he is, not who I wanted him to be.

    I'm all right with him going into the all again, I think.


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