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    Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    Sure, it's a risk, but it could have high reward. Liriano, with health and the right coaching, could be that #1 ace in the Cincinnati rotation, and could come a lot cheaper this offseason than some of the other names being thrown around.

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    After a disastrous 63-99 season, the Twins somewhat surprisingly fired GM Bill Smith earlier this week (surprising because it didn’t happen sooner), replacing him with long-time GM Terry Ryan. During his re-introductory press conference, Ryan said the team’s payroll will drop about $15M next season, which could mean that some of his players might be available in trades. One of the guys that could potentially be on the block is a name we’ve discussed quite a bit here in the past, left-hander Francisco Liriano. He’s always kinda been the black sheep in the Twins rotation, not conforming to their “let the hitter put the ball in play and get quick outs” pitching philosophy.
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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    I would not want to give up any top prospects for him because he's too inconsistant. Yes, he could end up being that dominate force he was before Tommy John Surgery, but then again he could keep being this up-and-down pitcher and wasted a Yonder Alonso or someone on him.

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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    I'm not sure it would take a top prospect like Alonso at this point.
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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    I'd do a B prospect or three for Liriano. (Perhaps Gregorius, Soto, and Sappelt?)

    Or, if they wanted ready major leaguers, would a Wood and Francisco deal work for the Twinkies?

    They need cheap production and both guys could help them.
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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    The Reds have enough uncertainty with TOR stuff in the form of Bailey, Volquez and Chapman. I'd prefer they go the other way and deal one away with some one who is more of a reliable number 3 added from the outside.
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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    Volquez for Liriano in a challenge trade.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    I would not want to give up any top prospects for him because he's too inconsistant. Yes, he could end up being that dominate force he was before Tommy John Surgery, but then again he could keep being this up-and-down pitcher and wasted a Yonder Alonso or someone on him.
    Sounds a little bit like Volquez. Send'em Edinson straight up. The Twins do seem to like our castoff starters (Maloney, Thompson?) Krivsky?

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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    I'd do a B prospect or three for Liriano. (Perhaps Gregorius, Soto, and Sappelt?)

    Or, if they wanted ready major leaguers, would a Wood and Francisco deal work for the Twinkies?

    They need cheap production and both guys could help them.
    IMO that's overpaying for Liriano, who is very similar to a Volquez.

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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    I'd be interested if it's more of a salary purge than trying to fleece the trading partner type of deal.

    Volquez for Liriano straight up, I'd do.
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    Re: Trade Target: Francisco Liriano

    We don't have room in the rotation for yet another question-mark-with-upside type. Who are we kicking out of the rotation for the guy with 5+ BB/9 last year?
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