Reds eligible for 2013 Competitive Balance Lottery picks.

[Gallen5862]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...ticle_26059392


Competitive Balance Lottery to shake up Draft
Small-market, low-revenue teams to get chance at extra picks

The lottery, it seems, has been designed to help small-market and lowest-revenue clubs gain more talent not just because they had a poor season. Many of the smaller-market clubs were proponents of a system with hard slotting. While that hasn't happened, this current system is designed, with this lottery a part of it, to give those clubs a competitive advantage compared to the status quo.

Teams eligible for '13 Lottery
Arizona D-backs Baltimore Orioles
Cleveland Indians Kansas City Royals
Oakland Athletics Pittsburgh Pirates
San Diego Padres Tampa Bay Rays
Cincinnati Reds Colorado Rockies
Miami Marlins Milwaukee Brewers
St. Louis Cardinals


There is one other lottery, one for picks forfeited by teams going over their allotted bonus pools. Any team going five to 10 percent over its pool gets taxed at 75 percent and loses a first-round pick. Anyone going 10-15 percent over gets hit with a 100-percent tax and loses a first- and second-round pick. Anything over 15 percent means a 100-percent tax and loss of first-round selections in the next two Drafts.

Any of those forfeited picks would go into a separate lottery. Any team that did not exceed its pool will be in that lottery. In this one, though, the odds are not just based on winning percentage, but on a formula of revenue and winning percentage.

[AmarilloRed]

First thought-how exactly does St. Louis qualify as a small-market or low-revenue team?

[MattyHo4Life]

First thought-how exactly does St. Louis qualify as a small-market or low-revenue team?

St. Louis isn't much bigger than Cincinnati.

[Wheelhouse]

St. Louis isn't much bigger than Cincinnati.

They're just good.

[AmarilloRed]

St. Louis isn't much bigger than Cincinnati.

The city might not be, but they have a much bigger market out there. They're a midmarket team bordering on large. It's really a stretch putting them in the lottery with the smaller teams.

[MattyHo4Life]

The city might not be, but they have a much bigger market out there. They're a midmarket team bordering on large. It's really a stretch putting them in the lottery with the smaller teams.

St. Louis isn't even close to a large market team. Baltimore is probably twice the size of St. Louis. Now they are a stretch.

[757690]

St. Louis isn't even close to a large market team. Baltimore is probably twice the size of St. Louis. Now they are a stretch.

Cardinals had the 11th highest payroll in baseball last season at $109M, ahead of the Dodgers. They have always had one of the most lucrative tv/radio deals in baseball, and have always been one of the richest franchises.

If you give the Cardinals a lottery draft pick, you might as well as give the Dodgers a draft pick.

Beyond absurd.

[RBA]

St. Louis isn't even close to a large market team. Baltimore is probably twice the size of St. Louis. Now they are a stretch.

You have to consider other variables.

Baltimore's market base is saturated with other teams.

Does St Louis have 4 other teams within 4 hour drive?

[Roy Tucker]

From what I've read, eligibility is the 10 smallest-market teams and the 10 lowest-revenue teams. Several teams are in both lists and are called crossover teams. Because of that, the final list is 13 teams.

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These teams aren't eligible:

AL East - Yankees, Red Sox, Toronto,
NL East- Philly, Atlanta, Mets, Nationals
AL Central - Detroit, White Sox, Twins
NL Central - Cubs, Astros
AL West - Texas, Angels, Mariners
NL West - Giants, Dodgers,

[IslandRed]

Same thing I'd read, Roy.

I guess it depends on perspective. It seems absurd on its face to allow the World Series winner into a "competitive balance" lottery. At the same time, they are one of the ten smallest MLB markets. They do not have one of the ten lowest revenue streams. But if a team can raise its stature above its market due to smarts and winning, I guess I'd rather see that rewarded than punished. Odds are, I'd say Milwaukee is in the same place... and if we're lucky, one day Cincinnati will be.

[Sea Ray]

If the Cardinals are part of this lottery then they need to revamp their formula. A profitable team with a $109Mill payroll doesn't need MLB welfare.

[savafan]

So... wouldn't this basically be the same teams every year no matter what?

[IslandRed]

So... wouldn't this basically be the same teams every year no matter what?

The bottom ten markets should remain pretty static. The bottom ten revenue teams could fluctuate more. Since it's an "or" qualifier, the number of teams in the lottery can differ from year to year.

[Benihana]

Why not have two leagues - a small market league and a big market league?

National (small market) League

EAST
Atlanta
Florida
Tampa
Toronto
Baltimore

CENTRAL
Cincinnati
Milwaukee
Pittsburgh
Detroit
Cleveland

WEST
Colorado
San Diego
Oakland
Kansas City
Minnesota

American (big market) League

EAST
NY Yankees
NY Mets
Boston
Philadelphia
Washington

CENTRAL
Chi White Sox
Chi Cubs
St. Louis
Houston
Texas

WEST
Seattle
LA Angels
LA Dodgers
San Francisco
Arizona

[757690]

Why not have two leagues - a small market league and a big market league?

National (small market) League

EAST
Tampa
Toronto
Baltimore
Florida
Atlanta

CENTRAL
Cincinnati
Milwaukee
Pittsburgh
Detroit
Cleveland


WEST
Oakland
Kansas City
Colorado
San Diego
Minnesota

American (big market) League

EAST
NY Yankees
NY Mets
Boston
Philadelphia
Washington

CENTRAL
St. Louis
Chi Cubs
Chi White Sox
Houston
Texas

WEST
San Francisco
LA Dodgers
LA Angels
Arizona
Seattle

I believe that has actually been discussed by MLB. I kinda like it, although I haven't really thought it through.

Funny thing, there are almost as many contending teams in the small market league right now, as in the big market league.