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  • RHP James Allen

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  • C Tucker Barnhart

    12 21.43%
  • RHP Alejandro Chacin

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  • RHP Drew Cisco

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  • RHP Tim Crabbe

    4 7.14%
  • UT Brodie Greene

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  • OF Ryan LaMarre

    3 5.36%
  • RHP Kyle Lotzkar

    12 21.43%
  • 1B Donald Lutz

    3 5.36%
  • OF Denis Phipps

    4 7.14%
  • RHP Dan Renken

    1 1.79%
  • 3B Gabriel Rosa

    8 14.29%
  • RHP J.C. Sulbaran

    6 10.71%
  • 3B David Vidal

    2 3.57%
  • 2B Ryan Wright

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    Yadier Molina seems like a great comp--for a ceiling, as you say. That brings me to a point that was made in the discussion of the last pick--that a guy like Duran has a lot more upside than Barnhart. That statement seems to be accepted as an obvious given, since Duran clearly has much, much, much more power. I guess people equate raw power with upside, which is understandable. But I don't see Duran's ceiling including good defense or decent contact skills. Seems to me like it's more on the order of Russell Branyan, or something between Branyan and Dunn. Is that a better player than Yadier Molina? Not in my book. I think we underestimate the ceiling of a guy who can be a Gold Glove catcher and hold his own at the plate.
    I totally agree with you. And the other concern with Duran, for me, is the ridiculously high K rates with poor contact rates. The power is largely negated when you're K and BB rates are very poor. I think Duran can be a good prospect, but he's got a ways to go. I certainly don't think he's a better prospect than Barnhart.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    I totally agree with you. And the other concern with Duran, for me, is the ridiculously high K rates with poor contact rates. The power is largely negated when you're K and BB rates are very poor. I think Duran can be a good prospect, but he's got a ways to go. I certainly don't think he's a better prospect than Barnhart.
    I too have Tucker rated higher than Duran. But I wouldn't call Duran's walk rate very poor at all. He walked 8.4% of the time he stepped to the plate, which is not bad at all. The strikeout rate is incredibly high though and what keeps me from ranking him any higher.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    Incidentally, c'golf . . . Since Chacin has no votes, I suppose there's a chance that you would drop him from the list for a while. FWIW, he's second-next on my chart, behind Lutz. Third is Drew Hayes, who seems about ready to go on the board.

    Thanks for taking charge of this.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    I guess I will join the loud minority of picking Crabbe here. I like Barnhart a whole lot and was back and forth between him and Crabbe, but ended up going with Crabbe due to two major league ready pitches and superior K rates throughout three leagues. Crabbe will be one I will be watching closely this summer.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    Then how about a pitcher who has the following peripherals through two seasons?

    14.8 K/9
    3.6 BB/9
    4.16 K/BB
    4.4 H/9
    0.881 WHIP

    And his given up one longball in 78.1 IP.
    Zero chance the Reds miss the playoffs!

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    Then how about a pitcher who has the following peripherals through two seasons?

    14.8 K/9
    3.6 BB/9
    4.16 K/BB
    4.4 H/9
    0.881 WHIP

    And his given up one longball in 78.1 IP.
    Pretty good. Sounds like a reliever though. How old is he? Where did he put up those numbers? More importantly, what is his stuff like?

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    He doesn't sound pretty good-- he sounds phenomenal.
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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    I found him. Stuff doesn't do enough for me here. He was outside of my Top 40.

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    I'd actually forgotten about him. Thanks, man (no?).

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    I'd actually forgotten about him. Thanks, man (no?).

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I found him. Stuff doesn't do enough for me here. He was outside of my Top 40.
    Do you have your top 40 posted somewhere? I looked at your site but didn't see it.

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    Re: Who is Redszone's #18 prospect?

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Do you have your top 40 posted somewhere? I looked at your site but didn't see it.
    The top 25 is on the site. The Top 40 isn't out yet, but is only available through the year Prospect Guide.


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