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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Shouldn't be surprised anymore, but I was when I saw this.


    No Braun for 50, no Fielder, no Pujols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    A positive test is a positive test. That is the process. That's the conviction.
    Why even have an appeal process then? Look, I'm far from a Braun apologist here... I just have experience with tests in the past that has shown this sort of process to be far from fool proof. That's all I'm saying.
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    Volquez didn't get to take a 2nd test. No way. Out 50 games, and that is that....
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Most damming part of it. The test was done twice on the same first sample.
    Except when did the second test that Braun asked for take place? Was it right afterwards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I agree, but only because we don't know all the facts, and what we do know is the result of leaks.

    If what has been leaked is verified, it's hard to believe that he is completely innocent.
    It would be nice to know the whole story before we convict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    It would be nice to know the whole story before we convict.
    He tested positive. What more do you need to know? There was a banned substance that was found to have been in his system. There's nothing more necessary.
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    It would be nice to know the whole story before we convict.
    Unsure if that would be possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    He tested positive. What more do you need to know? There was a banned substance that was found to have been in his system. There's nothing more necessary.
    Just pretend he is OSU and leaks may not be the whole story and the appeal process is till ongoing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Just pretend he is OSU and leaks may not be the whole story and the appeal process is till ongoing.
    Typical classless post. Not sure what Ohio State has to do with this. Actually I do, but it goes to motivation.

    The guy got caught red-handed by a drug test. This isn't about leaks, rumors, speculation or did he/didn't he. A drug test came up with a positive result that he had a banned substance in his system. That pretty much is all that is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Typical classless post. Not sure what Ohio State has to do with this. Actually I do, but it goes to motivation.

    The guy got caught red-handed by a drug test. This isn't about leaks, rumors, speculation or did he/didn't he. A drug test came up with a positive result that he had a banned substance in his system. That pretty much is all that is needed.
    I'll wait for the whole story before declaring a final position. And for the record, the OSU reference was not a classless post. It pointed to a very similar argument about a rush to judgement.
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Liars have made it hard to have good judgement.

    Based on the facts as stated,he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Usually best to hear all the facts before trashing the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    Typical classless post. Not sure what Ohio State has to do with this. Actually I do, but it goes to motivation.

    The guy got caught red-handed by a drug test. This isn't about leaks, rumors, speculation or did he/didn't he. A drug test came up with a positive result that he had a banned substance in his system. That pretty much is all that is needed.
    Best to just ignore it.
    How do we know he's not Mel Torme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    I'll wait for the whole story before declaring a final position. And for the record, the OSU reference was not a classless post. It pointed to a very similar argument about a rush to judgement.
    I fail to see the correlation. That situation didn't involve a positive drug test.
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    Re: Ryan Braun fails drug test

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Except when did the second test that Braun asked for take place? Was it right afterwards?
    Excellent question. One reason to reserve judgement at this point.

    However, if the first sample really was tested multiple times, with different types of tests, and they all came up positive, it kinda makes the results of the second sample moot.
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