Who is Redszone's #19 prospect?

[Edd Roush]

I agree that he isn't a much better prospect than either guy, but I do think he is a better prospect than both.

Also, I don't think anyone is going to correct you on Crabbe. Those are the reports on him, though I do think I would argue he doesn't have the best slider, even if BA says he does. But it is a good pitch.

Doug, glad we agree. Vidal and Barnhart will start in Bakersfield next year, correct? Will Duran make the jump with them?

I'm excited to see what all three can do next year. I have them in the same tier, so I can definitely see the arguments for each as a superior prospect. Therefore, I disagree with Betterread's premise that Vidal is so much better than the other two.

I still have Crabbe over all three. I'm a sucker for K rates and his control took major steps forward last year. If he can master that third pitch, while keeping his control and Ks (I know that's a big if), I would not be surprised to see Crabbe as a consensus top-10 prospect next year.

[dougdirt]

I still have Crabbe over all three. I'm a sucker for K rates and his control took major steps forward last year. If he can master that third pitch, while keeping his control and Ks (I know that's a big if), I would not be surprised to see Crabbe as a consensus top-10 prospect next year.

The lack of a third pitch is why I am not on the Crabbe bandwagon just yet, and when I say bandwagon, I mean at this point in the rankings. I do like him quite a bit as a prospect, I just think its as a reliever at this point. Until I hear something more, I still see him as a likely reliever which keeps his value down a bit.

[Edd Roush]

The lack of a third pitch is why I am not on the Crabbe bandwagon just yet, and when I say bandwagon, I mean at this point in the rankings. I do like him quite a bit as a prospect, I just think its as a reliever at this point. Until I hear something more, I still see him as a likely reliever which keeps his value down a bit.

I can see that hesitation. What percentage chance do you think he has to master a third pitch? My feeling is if you have good velocity and you have mastered one other pitch, how hard could it be to master a third pitch? I would think he has a very good chance (~80%) to learn one more pitch and be an effective starter.

[dougdirt]

I can see that hesitation. What percentage chance do you think he has to master a third pitch? My feeling is if you have good velocity and you have mastered one other pitch, how hard could it be to master a third pitch? I would think he has a very good chance (~80%) to learn one more pitch and be an effective starter.

I don't think its nearly that high. If it were, a ton of relievers would be starters. He has had three seasons in the minors now and he hasn't yet come close to throwing a reliable third pitch.