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    Trade Target: Mat Latos

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    Rosenthal suggests that the Padres would consider it. The Reds need a TOR arm. They do not have the money for one. They do have a lot of prospects.

    The Padres are not likely going to be competitive. By the time they are, Latos would be getting expensive. So.....

    What would you offer?

    (Yes, I realize they just traded for Huston Street, likely signifying that they aren't in rebuilding mode. Buy hey, things are slow. A guy can dream, can't he?)
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Alonso, Travis Wood, Dave Sappelt
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    Alonso, Travis Wood, Dave Sappelt
    I'd do that. Doubt the Pads would trade him now though, especially after acquiring Street. Although there have been rumblings about his quirkiness getting on teammates' nerves.
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Alonso, Travis Wood, Dave Sappelt
    Nope. Wood is still young and could be more the 2010 Wood than the 2011 Wood -- as a result, not a heckuva lot worse than Latos. The difference between Latos and Wood should cost less than Alonso + Sappelt.

    Too many questions still about Latos -- his head being one of them.
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Alonso, Stubbs, Ondrusek, Neftali Soto for Latos and Street.

    Alonso is blocked at 1B and is not a true LFer.
    Stubbs K's too much for me and we have Heisey who I favor anyway, and Sappelt.
    Ondrusek is cheaper than Street.
    Soto has played mostly 1B lately, and will be blocked by Votto, but is farther along than our other minor leaguers, and is a top prospect.

    Latos anchors our rotation.
    Street anchors our bullpen.
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Alonso, Stubbs, Ondrusek, Neftali Soto for Latos and Street.

    Alonso is blocked at 1B and is not a true LFer.
    Stubbs K's too much for me and we have Heisey who I favor anyway, and Sappelt.
    Ondrusek is cheaper than Street.
    Soto has played mostly 1B lately, and will be blocked by Votto, but is farther along than our other minor leaguers, and is a top prospect.

    Latos anchors our rotation.
    Street anchors our bullpen.
    Too much to give and I'm not interested in Street and his $8MM salary.
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Too much to give and I'm not interested in Street and his $8MM salary.
    According to Cot's, it's $7.5M and it's only through 2012.

    And Alonso makes $1M next season. So it's more like $6.5M after the player swap.
    Last edited by Vottomatic; 12-15-2011 at 12:14 PM.
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    According to Cot's, Latos isn't arb eligible until 2016.
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Soto and Hamilton to me should be the ONLY untouchable prospects including Mesoraco.
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    I'm a big Latos fan, but I'm guessing the Padres will "ask too much."

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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    I'm a big Latos fan, but I'm guessing the Padres will "ask too much."

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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Quote Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar View Post
    Soto and Hamilton to me should be the ONLY untouchable prospects including Mesoraco.
    So you are cool with the idea of starting Hanigan 120 games a year next year behind the dish and picking up a backup catcher to give him a breather?

    I don't necessarily hate the idea. That being said, I think Mesoraco is more untouchable in my mind than Soto or Hamilton.

    In my world, no one is untouchable. If you are getting more value than you are giving, do the deal. I want that talent to be ready in 2012 & 2013 so we still have the MVP and we can win in this window.

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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Alonso, Stubbs, Ondrusek, Neftali Soto for Latos and Street.

    Alonso is blocked at 1B and is not a true LFer.
    Stubbs K's too much for me and we have Heisey who I favor anyway, and Sappelt.
    Ondrusek is cheaper than Street.
    Soto has played mostly 1B lately, and will be blocked by Votto, but is farther along than our other minor leaguers, and is a top prospect.

    Latos anchors our rotation.
    Street anchors our bullpen.
    Padres have their own Stubbs in Cameron Maybin. Between Jesus Guzman and Anthony Rizzo, I'm not sure Alonso would interest them.

    I'm thinking something like Wood, Heisey and Grandal.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Not to divert Rick's thread, but Wood is an interesting question mark.

    Is he the next Cliff Lee, or the next Jack Armstrong (1/2 year of rookie dominance followed by Bleh)? Or something in between. I would gladly trade Wood for more of a sure thing, even if it ended up biting us down the road. What does everyone else think?

    Would love to get Latos.
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    Re: Trade Target: Mat Latos

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    Not to divert Rick's thread, but Wood is an interesting question mark.

    Is he the next Cliff Lee, or the next Jack Armstrong (1/2 year of rookie dominance followed by Bleh)? Or something in between. I would gladly trade Wood for more of a sure thing, even if it ended up biting us down the road. What does everyone else think?

    Would love to get Latos.
    Wood makes sense as a trade chip for the Padres. He is a fly ball pitcher, not a good fit for GABP. He is a great fit for the Padres.


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