Turn Off Ads?
Page 1 of 10 12345 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 138

Thread: After the Latos deal, what's next?

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    14,322

    After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Conventional wisdom is that the Reds will add a closer and a left fielder. Maybe a smaller trade for Seth Smith of the Rockies, who should be on the market. Maybe Coco gets re-signed now at a much lower salary. Maybe even Madson. Somehow, I think Beltran will cost too much money and presents a potential injury problem, but he still is a heck of a good ballplayer.

    Didn't somebody say today that Walt still isn't finished with the pitching staff? I wonder if this means that the Reds will go after still another starter. How about a trade for Gio Gonzalez including Homer Bailey. Reds still have guys like Billy Hamilton, Naftali Soto, Dan Corcino, and Yorman Rodriguez who might interest a club like the A's. Also Heisey and Sappelt could be valuable chips.

    The beauty of the Latos deal IMO is that the Reds acquired an excellent starting pitcher without taking on major salary, for this year and the next couple of years. This should enable Walt to keep dealing.

    For the first time in a long while, I'll be seriously watching the "trade rumors" sites to see what the Reds are up to. They could be quite active during the next weeks.
    Last edited by Kc61; 12-18-2011 at 12:22 AM.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #2
    All work and no play..... Vottomatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Lebanon
    Posts
    7,067

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    My gut tells me they won't do anything else except bolster the bullpen a bit, especially with Boxberger gone and Chapman becoming a starter.

    What I wish would happen is.....
    1. Sign the switch hitting Beltran to play LF, who OPS'ed .910, hit .300, and had an OBP of .385 last year, to bat cleanup and protect Votto. If he has a few stretches where he has some minor injures, we still have Heisey and Sappelt. It's a long season.
    2. Sign either Kuroda or Oswalt.
    3. Wish we could trade Arroyo.
    4. Bolster the bullpen. Maybe even by trade.
    "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.

    "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

  4. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    14,322

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Just listened to Walt's press conference today. He came pretty close to saying that the Reds are seeking a LFer. He said that a few free agents have approached Reds anxious to hit at GABP

    So I do think an outfielder will be added, just don't know if it will be a starter or a depth guy.

  5. #4
    Member Cedric's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Monroe
    Posts
    6,415

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Just listened to Walt's press conference today. He came pretty close to saying that the Reds are seeking a LFer. He said that a few free agents have approached Reds anxious to hit at GABP

    So I do think an outfielder will be added, just don't know if it will be a starter or a depth guy.
    Hopefully it's Seth Smith.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

  6. #5
    -The Insider-
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    2,871

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Damn, I came on here to post a thread titled "so what's next?" Crazy haha. So anyway, if the Reds add a pitcher (which could be a bullpen arm instead of starter) who gets bumped from the rotation? My question more so is what should they do with Homer or Leake. Trade one? Move one to the bullpen? I just wanna see what people think.

  7. #6
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    14,322

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    Damn, I came on here to post a thread titled "so what's next?" Crazy haha. So anyway, if the Reds add a pitcher (which could be a bullpen arm instead of starter) who gets bumped from the rotation? My question more so is what should they do with Homer or Leake. Trade one? Move one to the bullpen? I just wanna see what people think.
    After the season Leake just had, why is there any doubt that he is in the rotation next year?

  8. #7
    -The Insider-
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    2,871

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    After the season Leake just had, why is there any doubt that he is in the rotation next year?
    I guess then what do they do with Bailey? Do they move him to the bullpen or just hope some team covets him and deal him off?

  9. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    14,322

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    I guess then what do they do with Bailey? Do they move him to the bullpen or just hope some team covets him and deal him off?
    My own view, which is just a guess, is that there are two likely scenarios.

    First scenario is that Bailey starts and Chapman begins the year in relief getting stretched out.

    Second scenario is that somebody is traded, I'd guess Homer.

    Reds organization, even after the deal, has a lot of depth. Still have Latos, Cueto, Bailey, Chapman, Leake, Arroyo, Wood. Seven guys who can start. They are actually still in great position to make productive trades if they want to.

    I'm hoping they go "all in" and go after still another good starting pitcher.
    Last edited by Kc61; 12-18-2011 at 12:32 AM.

  10. #9
    KungFu Fighter AtomicDumpling's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Hamilton, OH
    Posts
    2,801

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    1. Aroldis Chapman for Logan Morrison of the Marlins plus a prospect. Fixes left field and saves the Reds a ton of money to help extend Votto. (I can dream.)

    The Latos trade and the rumored asking prices for pitchers like Shields, Danks, Niese and Gio Gonzalez prove just how valuable good young pitchers are on the trade market these days. Since we have a couple extra starting pitchers now, maybe we should be exploring the market for guys like Homer Bailey, Mike Leake, Aroldis Chapman or Travis Wood. We would not get a Latos-like haul but we could fill LF and help replenish the prospect-wagon with a low-level grade A prospect or two. The Blue Jays got Colby Rasmus for Edwin Jackson so there is a recent precedent for this type of deal.

  11. #10
    Member corkedbat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Lexington
    Posts
    6,438

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    My gut tells me they won't do anything else except bolster the bullpen a bit, especially with Boxberger gone and Chapman becoming a starter.

    What I wish would happen is.....
    1. Sign the switch hitting Beltran to play LF, who OPS'ed .910, hit .300, and had an OBP of .385 last year, to bat cleanup and protect Votto. If he has a few stretches where he has some minor injures, we still have Heisey and Sappelt. It's a long season.
    2. Sign either Kuroda or Oswalt.
    3. Wish we could trade Arroyo.
    4. Bolster the bullpen. Maybe even by trade.
    If you've got the money to sign Kuroda or Oswalt, sign Beltran instead. Heisey and Sappelt are just bodies you put in LF - neither is a corner OF - this team needs a meat of the order bat. I add a LH OF/PH even if I sign Beltran. If I'm gonna chase another starter, I'd go younger/less expensive (Pineda maybe?).

  12. #11
    Member 757690's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Posts
    11,500

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    I'm guessing big money goes to Madsen. The rest goes to a 4th outfielder type. Not my choice, just what I think will happen.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

  13. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Amarillo,Texas
    Posts
    4,371

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Not a lot of teams looking for closers-we can probably wait and prices for closers will come down a bit.

  14. #13
    Member corkedbat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Lexington
    Posts
    6,438

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I'm guessing big money goes to Madsen. The rest goes to a 4th outfielder type. Not my choice, just what I think will happen.
    All things being equal, I'd rather have Madsen from among the remaining closer type FAs. i wouldn't pay him $10M+ for four or five years though. Not thanks on a 4th OF type for LF - this org is filty with them.

    Not really an idea I like either, but I can see Walt adding Ryan Ludwick to a two or three year deal and believing that he acquired a legitmate middle of the order corner OF bat.

  15. #14
    Member Ron Madden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    5,815

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    I hope Walt stays away from Ludwick and Theriot.

  16. #15
    Worst Behavior. reds44's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    25,481

    Re: After the Latos deal, what's next?

    Does anybody have a list of free agents left, specifically outfielders?

    Also, I'll be very surpised if Theriot doesn't end up here. Not saying I like it, but he can backup at both middle infield spots.
    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Let's face it, you mis-hit the bun with the mustard squirter, no one will really care.


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25