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    2012 Bats Look Totally Different

    Subtractions:

    Daryl Thompson - twins
    Matt Maloney - twins
    Jared Burton - twins
    Yasmani Grandal - pads
    Brad Boxberger - pads
    Yonder Alonso - pads
    Devin Mesoraco - reds
    Jeremy Hermida - pads
    Fred Lewis - fa
    Juan Francisco - reds
    Zach Cozart - reds

    Additions:
    Soto
    ???help me here


    Struck me today - the Bats are essentially a brand new team. Brand new manager too. Pretty startling, really. Last year was the all-stagnation team, but that's all been swept away. Who can take a stab at filling out the roster in AAA for the forum?

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    Re: 2012 Bats Look Totally Different

    Subtraction: Rick Sweet
    Addition: David Bell
    Zero chance the Reds miss the playoffs!

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    Re: 2012 Bats Look Totally Different

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    Subtraction: Rick Sweet
    Addition: David Bell
    Where did Rick Sweet go again? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Where did Rick Sweet go again? Thanks
    He's the Reds' catching coordinator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    He's the Reds' catching coordinator.
    Wow....from manager to that? I think he would be a good manager myself.

    You are pretty well versed on Reds system....what do you think of the 2 recent trades?

    Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Wow....from manager to that? I think he would be a good manager myself.

    You are pretty well versed on Reds system....what do you think of the 2 recent trades?

    Thank You
    I like the Latos deal more. At first, I didn't like the deal because of including Boxberger but the more I thought about it, the more I liked it. The Reds gave up three players (Volquez, Grandal, Alonso) who were inevitably going to get traded. All three were blocked on the depth chart. Yonder might have started off next season as the starting left fielder, but he's just brutal there. You guy a guy in Latos who is still cheap as he's not eligible for arbitration yet. If they went out and got another guy (Gio Gonzalez, James Shields, ect) it would have cost way more than Latos.
    As for the Marshall deal, I don't know. I think we can all agree we vastly overpaid for this one. I understand giving up Wood and possibly even Sappelt, but including Torreyes, to me, was a big blow. Then again he has only played in Low-A and the Reds still have a ton of infield depth in Didi Gregorious and Henry Rodriguez.

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    Re: 2012 Bats Look Totally Different

    Yep.


    I'll say this, the room for swift promotions for the young batch in A and A+ has opened up. Perhaps we'll see Drew Hayes in AAA by years' end, for example.

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    Re: 2012 Bats Look Totally Different

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    Subtractions:

    Daryl Thompson - twins
    Matt Maloney - twins
    Jared Burton - twins
    Yasmani Grandal - pads
    Brad Boxberger - pads
    Yonder Alonso - pads
    Devin Mesoraco - reds
    Jeremy Hermida - pads
    Fred Lewis - fa
    Juan Francisco - reds
    Zach Cozart - reds

    Additions:
    Soto
    ???help me here


    Struck me today - the Bats are essentially a brand new team. Brand new manager too. Pretty startling, really. Last year was the all-stagnation team, but that's all been swept away. Who can take a stab at filling out the roster in AAA for the forum?
    Likely to be in Louisville:

    Luis Atilano
    Andrew Brackman
    Scott Carroll
    Nick Christiani
    Sean Gallagher
    Jeremy Horst
    Brandon Hynick
    Matt Klinker
    Kyle McCulloch?
    Chad Reinke
    Jordan Smith
    Travis Webb
    Kanekoa Texeira
    Travis Wood?


    Corky Miller

    Jose Castro
    Mike Costanzo
    Kris Negron
    Neftali Soto
    Chris Valaika

    Danny Dorn
    Daryl Jones?
    Felix Perez
    Denis Phipps
    Cody Puckett
    Bill Rhinehart?
    Last edited by cinreds21; 12-20-2011 at 01:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    Likely to be in Louisville:

    Luis Atilano
    Andrew Brackman
    Scott Carroll
    Nick Christiani
    Sean Gallagher
    Jeremy Horst
    Brandon Hynick
    Matt Klinker
    Kyle McCulloch?
    Chad Reinke
    Jordan Smith
    Travis Webb
    Kanekoa Texeira
    Travis Wood?


    Corky Miller

    Jose Castro
    Mike Costanzo
    Kris Negron
    Neftali Soto
    Chris Valaika

    Danny Dorn
    Daryl Jones?
    Felix Perez
    Denis Phipps
    Cody Puckett
    Bill Rhinehart?
    So, what does the rotation look like? How is the bullpen set up? What positions are these guys playing?

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    Re: 2012 Bats Look Totally Different

    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    Likely to be in Louisville:

    Luis Atilano
    Andrew Brackman
    Scott Carroll
    Nick Christiani
    Sean Gallagher
    Jeremy Horst
    Brandon Hynick
    Matt Klinker
    Kyle McCulloch?
    Chad Reinke
    Jordan Smith
    Travis Webb
    Kanekoa Texeira
    Travis Wood?


    Corky Miller

    Jose Castro
    Mike Costanzo
    Kris Negron
    Neftali Soto
    Chris Valaika

    Danny Dorn
    Daryl Jones?
    Felix Perez
    Denis Phipps
    Cody Puckett
    Bill Rhinehart?
    * I would have liked to see them keep Eric Campbell. Not crying coz he's gone, but he could have been another bridge to the nextgen prospects. Wonder if Danny Dorn makes the show if they need a lefty bench bat at some point.

    * If Didi Gregorious isn't a Bat to start the season, he could well be shortly there after. I would have said the same thing for HRod if not for the late-season injury and subsequent surgery. How is Negron still holding a 40-man slot?

    * There will be at least one 4A catcher signed before ST.

    If Reinhardt is stiill with the organization then I would certainly expect him with the Bats - they could use the pop, but I never saw if he was a MiL FA or not.
    Last edited by corkedbat; 12-23-2011 at 11:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    * I would have liked to see them keep Eric Campbell. Not crying coz he's gone, but he could have been another bridge to the nextgen prospects. Wonder if Danny Dorn makes the show if they need a lefty bench bat at some point.

    * If Didi Gregorious isn't a Bat to start the season, he could well be shortly there after. I would have said the same thing for HRod if not for the late-season injury and subsequent surgery. How is Negron still holding a 40-man slot?

    * There will be at least one 4A catcher signed before ST.

    If Reinhardt is stiill with the organization then I would certainly expect him with the Bats - they could use the pop, but I never saw if he was a MiL FA or not.

    Rhinehart is not a free agent. The question marks meant that they could be back at Double-A, not questioning if they were still in the organization still. And they signed a catcher in Brian Esposito.

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    Landon Powell has been DFA'd by Oakland. Would make a decent compliment to Corky Miller in Louisville.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8421

    Switch hitter. Could even be a passable sub for a short DL stint by one of the Reds regular backstops if it came down to that.

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    That's going to look very close to opening day. They could release a player or two and they don't have a second catcher. I see Jones and Rhinehart as the big possibilities to start 2012 back in Double-A.

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    Re: 2012 Bats Look Totally Different

    The Bats have certainly taken a hit this offseason. But as a true fan of the minor league game you always know that when a team is built around young talent it isn't going to last. The list of players previously posted is pretty accurate to what is currently in the system. I think some minor league free agent signings are going to take place between now and spring training. Catcher is a particular need. Corky is a badass, but he isn't catching 140 games either. They had James Skelton up from AA for the last couple of weeks in 2011 but he looked to be a poor man's version of Wilken Castillo... slightly built, played other positions, didn't hit for squat. Not sure if he is an option or not, but it would be dandy if they'd add a Catcher and a big bat to play 3b to go along with Soto at 1B. Costanzo is probably the 3b if they don't add someone but he's pretty limited offensively. Also, unless they give Frazier a spot on the 25 man roster he's a pretty good bet to be in Louisville as well. Another pitcher or two would also be nice. Travis Wood might very well start the year with the Bats and I'm interested to see if Ted Power can work some magic with Andrew Brackman. That would be a real feather in his cap if he could turn Brackman back into a prospect.
    Last edited by HalKing; 12-20-2011 at 05:35 AM.

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    Re: 2012 Bats Look Totally Different

    Quote Originally Posted by HalKing View Post
    ...and I'm interested to see if Ted Power can work some magic with Andrew Brackman. That would be a real feather in his cap if he could turn Brackman back into a prospect.

    My thoughts as well. In my opinion, Power was the most valuable guy in the dugout the last couple of years. It would be a real bonus if he could get Brackman going in the right direction.


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