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    So now to left field

    With Sappelt being shipped out, it's going to be Heisey or a free agent signing. Here are some names left that strike my interest.

    (In no particular order)

    Juan Pierre
    Cody Ross
    Raul Ibanez
    Johnny Damon
    Rick Ankiel
    Coco Crisp
    Andruw Jones


    And I know everyone wants Luke Scott but I am not a fan.

    Thoughts?

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    Re: So now to left field

    On the surface, I could live with CoCo Crisp. I haven't paid much attention to him the last year or so but I feel like he could be a good addition unless I'm missing something.
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    Re: So now to left field

    That list makes me miss Jonny Gomes at least he would be cheaper
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    Can someone please explain to me why everyone wants Luke Scott? He is not that good in my opinion. He has only hit .280 once and has a career .240 average vs left-handers (which is what everyone says we need.) I just don't get it. Someone blow me away with stats please.

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    I get the sense, especially given the reported trade for Marshall, that a trade for a LF isn't out of the question, which would greatly expand the list of possibilities.
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    Re: So now to left field

    Juan Pierre
    Cody Ross
    Raul Ibanez
    Johnny Damon
    Rick Ankiel
    Coco Crisp
    Andruw Jones


    Are any of these guys any better than Heisey and/or Todd Frazier at this point? Especially for the money they are going to cost?

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    Re: So now to left field

    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    Can someone please explain to me why everyone wants Luke Scott? He is not that good in my opinion. He has only hit .280 once and has a career .240 average vs left-handers (which is what everyone says we need.) I just don't get it. Someone blow me away with stats please.
    Who says we need a guy to hit left handers? Look at the stats. The Reds had the highest OPS in the NL againstr LHP. The Reds need a guy to hit against RHP and Scott has an .859 Career OPS against them.

    The Reds have a roster full of lefty killers (Phillips, Stubbs, Hanigan, Rolen, Bruce, Votto, Cairo probably Mesoraco, Frazier and Cozart). Against RHP its Votto, Bruce, Francisco and Heisey and the rest aren't so hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Who says we need a guy to hit left handers? Look at the stats. The Reds had the highest OPS in the NL againstr LHP. The Reds need a guy to hit against RHP and Scott has an .859 Career OPS against them.

    The Reds have a roster full of lefty killers (Phillips, Stubbs, Hanigan, Rolen, Bruce, Votto, Cairo probably Mesoraco, Frazier and Cozart). Against RHP its Votto, Bruce, Francisco and Heisey and the rest aren't so hot.
    I meant right-handers. My bad.

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    I hope Walt is inquiring about Carlos Quentin for LF. Adding an .838 OPS in LF would be mighty nice.
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    Ibanez could be worth spending a few million on a one year pact, I'd be willing to look into it if I were Walt.
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    It all depends on the contract length and value. I'd take a look at any of those guys with the exception of Ankiel if you can get them on a one year deal.
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    Crisp wouldn't be horrid, as he may enjoy the bump in leagues, in home parks, and in a good lineup. Damon might, too, though he's second choice because of poor defense.

    Andruw Jones might also be a fun choice. He'd K 200 times in full-time work, but might also hit 45 HR. Or, as part of a platoon with Heisey, they might combine for that. (I keep thinking Jones has at least one more monster season in him-- a 260/360/500 kind of monster. The longer his career goes, the more unlikely that seems.)

    Between these three options, there's not more than a few runs difference either way. I'd go with the cheapest, though Jocketty may want the surest thing. (Which, IMO, would Crisp.)
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    Re: So now to left field

    Heisey vs RH's in 330 AB's

    .288 .346 .539 .885

    weird, but i can live with that.
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    The last time Coco had a season as good as Stubbs' 2010 was six years ago. Why exactly does anyone want him? no power, can't find first base with a map and compass, wrong side of 30 and he's brittle.

    Um, I'll take my chances with Bruce, Heisey and Stubbs and have the best defensive OF in baseball.
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    Re: So now to left field

    To be fair, isn't Coco a better fielder than Heisey?
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