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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by 11larkin11 View Post
    Hold your horses everyone, may not be true



    http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/...ticle_26308146
    ESPN announced it. This is an article from earlier this evening.

    So two hours ago
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Larkin made the HOF yesterday.

    Reds sign a big time reliever today.

    Been a nice 48 hrs.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    My dad got to enjoy 3 Reds World Championships by the time he was my age. So far, I've only gotten to enjoy one. Step it up Redlegs!

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    ESPN announced it. This is an article from earlier this evening.

    So two hours ago
    It was updated at 11:11 PM EST by Mark Sheldon. Crasnick reporting is makes me believe it, though.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    You make a good point. Madson probably won't be much better than Cordero was last year. Cordero, while frustrating, was very good as a the closer.

    However, he probably will be much better than Cordero or any other closer option the Reds had in 2012. What I feared was bringing in a lesser closer and having that position downgraded from last year. Pretty much everyone else available besides Madson does that. He also moves everyone down a notch in the pen, making each role more productive.

    You are right, he doesn't put the Reds over the top. Latos and Marshall and Madson combined do however.
    I think the big upside is that he is only 30 and there is very little chance for regression, unlike with Cordero which is inconsistent at best. Madson does give them more stability from that standpoint.
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    Amazing! Great job by Walt and the Reds. This has been an amazing offseason. Wow.

    Mat Latos, Sean Marshall, and Ryan Madson. I would have never dreamed the Reds would added even two of those players, let alone all three.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post

    The Reds 8-9 ining guys are as good as any in baseball. Which bumps guys like Masset, Bray, etc. into middle relief.
    Eh, David Robertson and Mariano Rivera are the best in the business.

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Now we just need Cespedes...
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Give me Ludwick and I can take a two month nap till ST.
    With finances being what they are, I think Ludwick is a very good target. I also like JD Drew, but both are good candidates for a GABP bump.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    With finances being what they are, I think Ludwick is a very good target. I also like JD Drew, but both are good candidates for a GABP bump.
    uggg... I would stay away from JD Drew. That guy still gives me stomach aches every time I see him on the field... that is when he isn't injured.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    FIP does not matter when it comes to a closer. The thing that matters is if they save the game or not. That is it. Its the most bottom line position in baseball, in my opinion. I never said that Coco was good. However he did give the Reds 37 saves last season. The whole point I'm trying to drive home is that by adding 4-5 extra saves, does that make the Reds a 90 win team in 2012? If Madson gives the Reds 42 saves in 2012, does that close the gap enough to be division winners?
    Madson by himself doesn't get the Reds to 90.

    But add him to Marshall in the pen and that might do it.

    Then add Latos to the mix.

    That should get you there with wins to spare.

    From Opening Day 2010, Cincinnati has lost:
    Jonny Gomes OF
    Ramon Hernandez C
    Edinson Volquez SP
    Travis Wood SP
    Matt Maloney RP/SP
    Dontrelle Willis RP/SP
    Francisco Cordero RP

    and replaced them with:
    Mat Latos SP
    Sean Marshall RP
    Ryan Madson RP
    Devin Mesoraco C
    Zach Cozart SS
    Juan Francisco 3B
    Todd Frazier OF
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by George Anderson View Post
    Larkin made the HOF yesterday.

    Reds sign a big time reliever today.

    Been a nice 48 hrs.
    Latos, Marshall, Madson - In

    Pujols and Prince (likely) - Out of the division
    Braun - Out for 50 games

    and Larkin to the HOF

    best off-season in a long time

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by 11larkin11 View Post
    It was updated at 11:11 PM EST by Mark Sheldon. Crasnick reporting is makes me believe it, though.
    But later Tuesday night, Jon Heyman of MLB Network and CBSSports.com tweeted simply, "Reds, Madson in agreement." Bob Nightengale of USA Today also tweeted, "Ryan Madson is signing with Reds, who are definitely going for the division title."

    So, what are we supposed to hold our horses for?
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    Didn't the Reds have almost a lights out bullpen last year? It would be one thing if we were talking about the horrible bullpen the Cards broke out with at the beginning of the 2011 season but even last year your bullpen was really good. Sure, adding Madson does improve the pen but by how much?
    No, their bullpen faltered badly especially in the 2nd half.

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Madson by himself doesn't get the Reds to 90.
    Thats the key. I think things were taken out of context, unintentionally I presume.


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