Beautiful. Reds not messing around. I don't know if it's quite "or bust," but 2012 is clearly the clarion call. Time for players -- and fans -- to step up. Front office has done its job.
Beautiful. Reds not messing around. I don't know if it's quite "or bust," but 2012 is clearly the clarion call. Time for players -- and fans -- to step up. Front office has done its job.
Yep. The other thing that helped get this offseason off the ground, ironically, was the lack of activity previously. Walt's plan, it appears, has been to make moves on his terms and let the market come to him. If he went all in to get Cliff Lee a couple of years ago, what would this offseason look like? Just a hypothetical example.
Nice work Cincy FO. Good stuff.
I think this is what I was trying to get at in the new "grade the front office" thread - last off-season, we didn't have as clear a picture what some of these chips could be. They enhanced their value in 2011 - and we learned about some who we've kept (e.g. Mez, Cozart).
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I wonder about Chapman.
Let's assume Reds don't want him at AAA, he is just too valuable and expensive.
Let's assume Reds decide to stretch him out pitching longer relief for the big club.
Bullpen could be Chappy, Lecure, Ondrusek, Bray, Masset, Arredondo, Marshall, Madson.
That's eight guys for a seven man bullpen.
Could someone like Masset be dealt with a prospect for a position player?
Do Madson and Marshall provide the depth to facilitate a trade from bullpen depth?
I am a happy happy man. Wow, this is great news. Love it.
I'M A BELIEVER NOW!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!
I take back everything bad I ever said about Jocketty.
And Bob C. has made me a believer that he is in it to win it!!!!!
I'm shocked, blown away, and ecstatic all at the same time.
Gotta start looking at buying some tickets now. Wow. Just simply wow.
Best offseason in a long while. I wonder if they're done or have more sneaky moves up their sleeves?
You can't say the Reds aren't trying this off season. I was a bit surprised by this. I really didn't think they would sign Madson and would only sign Cordero if he were really cheap and no one else wanted him. This really solidifies the bullpen. On paper it has to be one of the best in baseball. Now if they can get a good righty bat for LF and maybe a utility infielder they may just be set for 2012.
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Walt is the MAN!!!!
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I get your point. The thing is.. Cordero is gone. A bullpen arm had to be added. If the choice is adding Cordero or Madson, I spend the extra money on Madson every time. Especially on a one year commitment.
And yes, I am going to say signing Madson instead of Cordero this year may potentially be a 4-5 game swing based on the fact that if Cordero struggled, Dusty would continue to run him out there.
Our bullpen is awesome now.
The radio said Madson got 8.5 milllion (I think).. That's a bargain for one year of him. He will make that much of an impact. I can live with Heisey and a retread in LF now.
Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012!
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If you're going to spend big money on a closer, at least sign one of the most effect guys in the league. And on a 1 year deal? Awesome.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
This is awesome! 2012 World Series, here we come.
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I'm new to fangraphs, so help me out. In reading his pitch breakdown, he's pretty much a fastball/changeup guy who occasionally throws a slider? Correct or not correct? And it looks like his changeup is a pretty good one. Also says his average fastball is 94 mph.
Again, I'm new to fangraphs, so tell me if I'm reading it right or wrong. Thanks.
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