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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Nice work.

    I've been a pretty harsh critic of this GM and this Owner but I must say that I'm quite enthused for Reds baseball next season and will definitely be going to some games.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

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    I am so glad you brought up that crucial point. I hear Reds fans say things like "There's no room for Chapman in the rotation ... we already have Latos, Cueto, Leake, Bailey and Arroyo."

    Well, how often do the 5 men that begin the season in the starting rotation make it all the way through without an injury (or poor performance which causes a demotion)? Hardly ever. So, undoubtedly Chapman will be needed. Or if he's not up to par, another person that can step into the rotation like LeCure, or the FA-on-the-cheap that many are speculating (minor league deal with invite to ST).
    Now that there's no longer a glaring need at the back of the bullpen, hopefully Chapman's locked in as a starter for the time being. He can get his work in at Louisville without the fans making a huge fuss and hopefully make his way back up here at some point. Latos, Chapman, Cueto...I'm still dreaming on it.

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Contract sounds even better than reported according to Reds.com:

    A source told MLB.com on Wednesday that Madson will get a one-year guaranteed contract that pays him $6 million in 2012 with an $11 million option for 2013 that carries a $2.5 million buyout. Some of the money will be spread out over four years.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Contract sounds even better than reported according to Reds.com:



    i figured that the $8.5M would be plus a $1.5M buyout taking it ip to $10M for one year, but it's $6M plus the $2.5M buyout? Out-frickin'-standning!. I see why they called this the deal of the winter - it is. If is $6M this year and $11M next year with some of that spreadout, I'd say we have our closer for the next two years unless Madson can opt out at the end of the year (which I'm figuring he can).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Contract sounds even better than reported according to Reds.com:



    I wish to get in the line to say that Mr Jocketty very well done. 6 mil for one of the best closers in the market with a "good" option?!?!?

    A from me.

    Latos deal= Excellent
    Marshall deal= I can deal with it.
    Madson contract= Excellent with a side order of AWESOME!

    Very well done Mr Jocketty!
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    If the Reds are only paying Madson $6M, then there's probably enough for Theriot and Ludwick or Ross.

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    I might have over looked it, but I don't think this has been posted yet. Pretty interesting read about Madson's changeup.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...-deadly-weapon

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    You might think, as a colleague suggested, that the standard-setter for right-handers is Mariano Rivera’s cutter.

    But because Rivera throws the pitch almost all the time, it doesn’t quite have the value of the one that was the statistical champ for righties in 2011 -- Ryan Madson's changeup
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Contract sounds even better than reported according to Reds.com:



    Since this is a mutual option, if the Reds choose to pick up the $11M option, but Madson opts out, do the Reds still have to pay the $2.5 M buyout?

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by Edd Roush View Post
    Since this is a mutual option, if the Reds choose to pick up the $11M option, but Madson opts out, do the Reds still have to pay the $2.5 M buyout?
    Probably depends on the wording of the contract; I would assume that the Reds do not want it written that way.

    By the way, this is a great deal for the Reds -- even if they use the option in 2013 (assuming he performs well in 2012 and so do the Reds), it's still a good deal.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    1) Is it a mutual option for sure?

    2) Can someone explain the point of a mutual option, other than taking care of the leg work of a contract upfront?

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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    Quote Originally Posted by thatcoolguy_22 View Post
    I might have over looked it, but I don't think this has been posted yet. Pretty interesting read about Madson's changeup.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...-deadly-weapon

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    The changeup is my favorite pitch. I really didn't know that much about Madson's arsenal until now, but finding out that he throws a dead fish/Bugs Bunny changeup makes me even happier.
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    Yea, the changeup is deadly because of the optical illusion effect. In the ongoing cat and mouse game, the pitchers who have this pitch as a plus have a distinct competitive advantage. You also see more and more young guys coming up with the fastball/changeup combo.

    The fastball/changeup is probably the one combo where a starter can be effective with only two plus pitches.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    I'm trying to recall, did Soto have anything besides fastball/changeup? I seem to remember him throwing a curve.
    Chapman to the rotation!!!! Do it already!!!!

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    I'm trying to recall, did Soto have anything besides fastball/changeup? I seem to remember him throwing a curve.
    If he threw a curve, it was rarely. Fastball-changeup was all he needed.
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    Re: Reds Sign Ryan Madson

    This pen will render most left handed batters completely useless. It's going to be fun to watch.
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